Swapping parts 03/04 - 05

[Jeff]

Here's the list so far of what I know will/will not swap.

WILL SWAP:
Wheels (front & rear)
Rotors (front & rear)
Sprocket Carrier & Cush drive
Gearing
Gas tank
Fuel pump
Clutch cover
Alternator cover
Rearsets (both sides)
Rear brake lever
Shift lever
Shock
Fairing stay
Tank cowl
Front master cylinder & lever
Clutch lever
Throttle assy


WILL NOT SWAP
Forks
Front brake calipers
Triples (top & bottom)
Front fender
Ignition* (could be made to work, but the 03/04 has one extra line for security. the 05 doesn't have this)
Axles
Battery tray / rear heat shield

AFTER MARKET STUFF
* Power commander from an 03/04 will work *** I talked to Dynojet and they said that if you are using an 03/04 on an 05, you *must* have it custom mapped or it won't map right.  I don't know why, but this is what they have told me.  The firmware is different as well.
* Scotts damper - Scotts is in the process of making a new mounting kit as the clearances are different.  Per Scott "the 03/04 might fit, but with clearance differences, I wouldn't recommend anyone try it".
* Exhaust systems will fit, but the mounting points are different for the headers and at the tail, so you will have to fool around with it and possibly fabricate a few brackets.

More to come...

[cpchillin]

Jeff will the headstocks match up? Like put an 05 frontend on an 03-04?

[Jeff]

Jeff will the headstocks match up? Like put an 05 frontend on an 03-04?

Good question.  I haven't measured it, but I'm very confident that you could put an 05 front end on an 03/04 bike (or vice versa).  But it would take forks, triples, clipons, fender, axle & spacers.

[cpchillin]

Well than I might just have USD forks soon afterall!!

[Jeremy]

check out the ron ayers fiche, alot of the part#'s are the same, according to the fiche, the 05 upper should bolt on to the fairing stay with the front half of the ram air ducts and the ram air duct holders, the tail should bolt on.  not sure though, i'm just going off the part #'s

[Jeff]

check out the ron ayers fiche, alot of the part#'s are the same, according to the fiche, the 05 upper should bolt on to the fairing stay with the front half of the ram air ducts and the ram air duct holders, the tail should bolt on.  not sure though, i'm just going off the part #'s

If the part #'s are the same on the products you list, then Ron Ayers isn't listing accurate part nums.  The parts are absolutely different.  Will they mount up?  I don't know.  The upper might, but I doubt that the tail will.  Honda advertised that the tail was narrower than the 03/04.  But again, I don't know.  Plus, if you went with the 05 tail on the 03/4 bike, you'd have a gaping hole where the key slot is on the 05 tail...

[Hi-Side]

So the wheels swap including spacers, just the axles are different ?

Thats excellent news...

[Jeff]

So the wheels swap including spacers, just the axles are different ?

Thats excellent news...

Yes & No.  I used the 05 spacers as I didn't want to measure out the 03/04 stuff, but they look pretty close.  The key here is that the wheels, rotors, cush drive & sprocket carrier will swap directly.  Axles & spacers are chump-change...

[sticky]

any chance the seat will swap out .. doesnt look like it

[Jeff]

Front seats line up bolt holes, so I believe they will swap.

Back seat looks identical.

Subframe measures out that it will bolt up, but the layout is different, so in a  pinch, you could use an 03/04 on an 05 or vice versa, but you'll have problems with the battery tray and what not.

[jesherva]

Hi, 03's V-Stacks factory and airfilter BMC are fit for 05'...

[Jeff]

Hi, 03's V-Stacks factory and airfilter BMC are fit for 05'...

That's a tough one..  Air filter should work, but I don't know about the stacks.  I think they may be different in the 05. 

[huffduf41]

Jeff, do you think "convincing" my exhaust from my 04 on to fit on my 05 will hurt performance in any way?

[Jeff]

Not at all...  The mounting points are the only differences...

[Nemesis]

Ignition* (could be made to work, but the 03/04 has one extra line for security. the 05 doesn't have this)

Does this mean the '05's are easier to steal?