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QuicK:
I hear about all kinds of accidents involving a variety motorcyclists.  These accidents involved all kinds of bikes, different skill levels and the injuries varied too.  I mean from little pocket bikes to goldwings, from kids to senior citizens, noobs to veterans, broken feet and collarbones to fatalities.  Accidents have happened to the best and the worst of us so why discourage newbs?  Why not give them info and experiences to help them no matter what bike they choose.  The RR can't be the the bike from hell for all newbs because it was the first bike for quite a few of us on just this forum alone.

My question is: Since when did the style of bike and engine displacement determine a riders fate?  Same with experience levels.  I mean any of us could be victims at anytime or place while riding.

Tibbett:
It's maturity level for alot of them...I don't want a brand new rider on a Gix1k behind me in a group..their non experienced ass can stay infront of me. It gets down to what we've been through..knowing how to react, what the bike can do, what you can get away with with the bike, and what the environment around you will allow. It's like the first time you race..you have no idea really what the good lines are for a new track until you follow someone who is seasoned..then you start developing your own braking points and riding technique for said track using those 'fast' lines as a general line and finding what works for you from there.

Fretless33:

--- Quote from: QuicK on October 12, 2005, 07:34:55 PM ---My question is: Since when did the style of bike and engine displacement determine a riders fate? Same with experience levels. I mean any of us could be victims at anytime or place while riding.

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If you paid attention to any of my replies in these "RR as a first bike" threads, you'd know that I think that any "R" bike is a poor choice for a starter bike...you'd also know that it's not the engine displacement (style is closer)...it's the rake and trail, mixed with the power that makes "R" bikes very unforgiving bikes, even for advanced riders.

I'll never try to discourage a new rider from getting a motorcycle, but I will to my dying day try to discourage a new rider from getting the wrong bike, or a bike that increases his chances of getting injured as a new rider. ...

Gunslinger:
 Newbs should ride mopeds for the first 5 years.

Phil314:

--- Quote from: QuicK on October 12, 2005, 07:34:55 PM ---I hear about all kinds of accidents involving a variety motorcyclists.  These accidents involved all kinds of bikes, different skill levels and the injuries varied too.  I mean from little pocket bikes to goldwings, from kids to senior citizens, noobs to veterans, broken feet and collarbones to fatalities.  Accidents have happened to the best and the worst of us so why discourage newbs? 

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No, most accidents happen to a much smaller percentage of very specific groups of people.


--- Quote ---Why not give them info and experiences to help them no matter what bike they choose. 

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Because sport bike usually attract young and imature people. Those people think they know it all and rarely listen to any good advice.


--- Quote ---The RR can't be the the bike from hell for all newbs because it was the first bike for quite a few of us on just this forum alone.

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You can be smart and start on the right bike or you can start on the wrong bike and hope you get lucky. Some people started on an RR and got lucky, some didn't. The question is do you WANT to be smart or HOPE you get lucky? Not that a pimply faced 18 yo with a raging hardon for an RR is going to let his brain decided.


--- Quote ---My question is: Since when did the style of bike and engine displacement determine a riders fate?  Same with experience levels.  I mean any of us could be victims at anytime or place while riding.

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All the time. Experience, skill and maturaty greatly affect your chance of an accident. Many people go 10 years between accidents. Those people ride BMW's & Goldwings. Some people crash 5 times a year. They are usually on sportbikes. If you really think there isn't a relationship between the type of bike and the person and the chance of an accident, then you are dreaming.

Plus the noobs are so fun to pick on, once again because they think they know it all already.

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