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Title: One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: ImStoopid on September 05, 2003, 02:05:31 AM
I was just wondering what people have done so there isn't just one head light running, and whatever you did if you are able to choose between low/high beams still.
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: Black600rr on September 05, 2003, 02:40:27 AM
If one more person asks this question, I am going to end myself.

Listen people. The CBR600RR, designed by Honda, was meant as a 2 headlight reflector system. By switching the system to a dual filament bulb.. you will be REDUCING your light output significantly. Period.

Don't do this conversion. It's NOT good.
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: boba on September 05, 2003, 11:44:55 AM
yet, both bulbs are the same ... the reflector is different.  can't do it without replacing entire system (including right side headlight reflector mechanism)

see my previous post: http://www.cbr600rr.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=586;start=15 (http://www.cbr600rr.com/forum/index.php?board=2;action=display;threadid=586;start=15)

this topic should really be put in that "important things" forum :)
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: Jeremy on September 05, 2003, 02:39:36 PM
design a new headlight cowl, reflectors and everything.  lay it up in fiberglass, cover it with reflective material, and there you go.  it's harder than it sounds, but get to work.  let me know when you're done stoo
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: alby on September 05, 2003, 03:16:43 PM

 I just ride with highbeams on all the time.




I was just wondering what people have done so there isn't just one head light running, and whatever you did if you are able to choose between low/high beams still.
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: SRADman on September 05, 2003, 03:56:29 PM

 I just ride with highbeams on all the time.




I was just wondering what people have done so there isn't just one head light running, and whatever you did if you are able to choose between low/high beams still.

I did till the battery drain posts started appearing  :-\
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: marcmcm on September 05, 2003, 04:59:51 PM
If your bike hasn't died from riding with the high beams on by now...It's probably not gonna.  I do it all the time and nothing has happened to mine.
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: CocaColaKid on September 06, 2003, 11:38:35 AM
I wonder if Ducati forums experience this same sort of thing?  ;D
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: cpchillin on September 06, 2003, 02:22:54 PM
Alot of sportbikes are doing it now. Look at the newer R6 and the Zx's. I was riding with some R6's yesterday and their damn lights are bright as the sun. I hated being in front of them. Personally I saw just ride with both lights and be done with it. Lock this thread cuz we're done!
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: Tufelhunden on September 06, 2003, 08:49:49 PM
Lock this thread cuz we're done!

Done!  We're not even close to done!  

I bet we can beat this dead horse for at least another 20 or 30 pages.  Come on guys we can do it.   ;D
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: CBRMarine on September 07, 2003, 11:15:19 AM
I get told at least once a week that I have a headlight out and I always tell them, "I know... I don't know how to fix it."
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: Matthew on September 07, 2003, 11:56:01 AM
I get told at least once a week that I have a headlight out and I always tell them, "I know... I don't know how to fix it."


I was getting told the same thing while riding during the day with my brights on.
So I raised the low beam reflector up to match the high beam (just turn the adjustment bolt to the right) and have not had a comment like that since.
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: boba on September 08, 2003, 12:51:47 AM
one headlight on = more HP than two on. :D
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: cpchillin on September 08, 2003, 02:47:02 PM
Hey isn't boba kinda right! The higher the drain on the electrical system the more the alternator has to work the more heat it produces and the more it heats the engine up. Isn't a hotter engine not able to work as efficently as a cooler one. Therefore losing hp? Or does the heat that's generated from the high beam heating the air in front of the bike make the air less dense which helps the bike cut through the air better. But wait if you think of that than the headlights are right above the intake ducts and the hotter the intake air the less dense it is. We want the most dense air going into the engine as possible. That's it I'm not gonna use headlights at all during the day and only at night will I use them. It's hotter outside during the day so I don't wanna heat up the air anymore than It already is and at night it's cooler so the headlights heating up the cooler air is ok. Unless I'm racing my shadow than I'll leave the headlights off at night too.
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: Black600rr on September 08, 2003, 05:34:48 PM
I love reading theories like these above.

Plain and simple, the reason you 'lose' horsepower when you have more electrical items on is because of increased physical 'drag' on the engine.

The engine has to work harder to move the magnets through a more 'resistive' magnetic field in the alternator. You don't actually "LOSE" horsepower... its only being used elsewhere.
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: cpchillin on September 08, 2003, 06:31:29 PM
If I can't use the hp for moving forward than I'm losing the hp!! I don't care if a bike makes 200hp if only 20hp get's to the rear wheel than I don't want that bike. I understand what you are saying but I want usable hp!
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: 03yellowRR on September 08, 2003, 06:39:34 PM
I get flashed for ride with my high beams on. >:(  only at night
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: Goro on September 09, 2003, 07:29:37 PM
No Comment!!!

LEAVE THE F@$&!^# HEADLIGHTS ALONE
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: Black600rr on September 10, 2003, 02:36:26 AM
Goro.. that just about sums up what I was thinking.

Unless you plan on doing the HID conversion. ;)
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: mabbottusmc on September 10, 2003, 03:24:36 AM

This is what I've beenb told from honda about the lights. It's the style to have one on in Japan so they carried it over here. To make up for the extra power drain of the second headlight you have to be at 11k or above. It's not meant to be ridden with. I like to ride with my high beam on. But I'm also careful about pissing people off. They have to be able to see also. They also said that it's going to be corrected in 2004.
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: Goro on September 10, 2003, 12:31:34 PM
Well I guess since it is the trend over sea's it will take a while for it to catch on over here, since now most of these days cool stuff comes from over sea's. People adapt it will be COOL one day.  
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: Chuckles on March 09, 2004, 05:13:18 AM

They also said that it's going to be corrected in 2004.

What is going to be corrected? The power drain issue, or the independant headlight issue?  I have an '04 and it runs with one headlight...  Beutifully I might add.
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: pUrExTc on March 09, 2004, 06:29:00 AM
Unless you plan on doing the HID conversion. ;)

My friend got the HID conversion on his '03 black RR.  It looks pretty nice!  I like those bluish white lights over the yellowish orange colors.  anyone know where to get this?
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: Chuckles on March 10, 2004, 07:17:05 AM
HID conversion kit can be found here http://www.2kracing.com/product_info.php/cPath/36/products_id/1716?osCsid=3694edcf53872a8737a13112c657272f (http://www.2kracing.com/product_info.php/cPath/36/products_id/1716?osCsid=3694edcf53872a8737a13112c657272f)

I think the RR takes the H7 but I can't recall for sure...
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: pUrExTc on March 14, 2004, 06:50:17 PM
so it's not like a car, where u can just put a HID type bulb inside?
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: cpchillin on March 14, 2004, 07:00:16 PM
HID's take a high voltage that is low wattage. To get the HID look without the advantages of HID's you can spend $45 and get the look. But remember you'll probably burn up a set of bulbs a year.
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: Ynotfly_600RR on March 16, 2004, 03:52:35 AM
I have the cure for the damn headlight, that won't cost you a penny.  You will have to run the the bike with high beam at all time.  Here is the trick.  Turn on the light and switch it to high-beam.  Now pull the high-beam headlight (right headlight) out off it housing.  Tilt the high beam bulb to point up, do this until you get the same lumination with the low beam.  Once you have it, plug the rubber boot back in, but don't put the bulb back into its housing.  The rubber boot will hold it just fine.  I've been riding like this, and have taugh many peoples the trick.  So try it.  8)
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: fretless33 on March 16, 2004, 12:10:43 PM
Just a little secret...

The fucking head light doesn't need a "cure" because it's working exacly the way the manufacturers intended it to work! I mean really everybody, once I found out that the headlights were suppose to be that way, I was like, Ok, and that was it...never focused on it again. Now people are fucking up their highbeams to "fix" that troublesome problem.
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: tabb on March 16, 2004, 03:11:58 PM
I have the cure for the damn headlight, that won't cost you a penny.  You will have to run the the bike with high beam at all time.  Here is the trick.  Turn on the light and switch it to high-beam.  Now pull the high-beam headlight (right headlight) out off it housing.  Tilt the high beam bulb to point up, do this until you get the same lumination with the low beam.  Once you have it, plug the rubber boot back in, but don't put the bulb back into its housing.  The rubber boot will hold it just fine.  I've been riding like this, and have taugh many peoples the trick.  So try it.  8)

Ya, It'll work fine 'till road vibration displaces the bulb and it melts the housing. When lit, that H7 bulb will be hot enough to burn your skin/boil water within a couple of minutes. With nothing but a rubber boot holding it in place (beacuse you didn't replace the plastic retaining collar  :D) you are asking for trouble. At the very least, your bulb will burn out that much faster cause it's bouncing all over the place.

If running with 1 light bugs you that much then either ride with the high beam on 24/7, modify the lighting system properly.....or what Fretless said!!!
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: Ynotfly_600RR on March 17, 2004, 01:42:25 AM
TAPP;

I don't know what you are talking about, but it makes sense.  However, I have not had any problem with it.  You don't have to use this method if you don't want to.  
I have two 600rr, neither have any problem.  Thanks for your suggestion.  I like the look of two headlight, no the "cock-eye bitch".  U try it, if it happen to you than let me know then I will consider.
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: tabb on March 17, 2004, 02:15:40 AM
You right! Those retaining collars are overkill anyways. Email Honda and tell 'em they don't need to install them anymore. While you're at it why don't you drill some holes in your exhaust so you won't have to buy an aftermarket can......j/k  ;) ;)

What can I say.....to each his own. Glad it works for you.  
Title: Re:One Headlight, BE GONE!!!
Post by: 600DubRizzle on March 17, 2004, 09:59:20 AM
Girls, if you want to argue, take it outside the FAQ forum.