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Title: Fuck Police.
Post by: blindkiller on October 11, 2009, 04:00:14 PM
Homeowner has an intruder at gunpoint while on the phone with 911 and cops rush in and shoot him in the back, hip and forearm. Then proceed to shoot him 3 more times when he's on the ground. No verbal warning by cops.  :fu:

But the cop was cleared of any wrongdoing by internal affairs.  :fu:

Partial CNN Video w/ 911 audio.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/10/09/pn.cop.shoots.homeowner.cnn

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Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: DeadlyRaceReplica on October 11, 2009, 10:38:18 PM
damn they fucked up big time, but they are cops and they will probably get away with it.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: blindkiller on October 11, 2009, 11:58:34 PM
Internal affairs already cleared him of doing anything wrong.

Though these things were all seriously wrong:

1) Dispatch knew the home owner had a gun drawn
2) All the commanding officers on scene knew he had a gun drawn
3) Did not give warning that he was going to fire
4) Shot him in the back
5) Wife screamed he had a gun drawn and he shot him 3 times while standing
6) Shot him 3 more times while on the ground

I have my concealed weapons permit and was actually out shooting today with a buddy that has an AR-15 or M4. These are all kinds of stupid wrong unless the cop had a gun pointed at him. He did not nor was the home owner screaming his ass off like an idiot to create a false impression on any officer.
 
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: Knightslugger on October 12, 2009, 01:27:06 PM
that's fucking insane... every one of those officers should be discharged permanently and formally charged with manslaughter.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: excat on October 12, 2009, 05:24:06 PM
that's fucking insane... every one of those officers should be discharged permanently and formally charged with manslaughter.

for once i argee with you    ;D
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: ian on October 12, 2009, 05:28:15 PM
i thought its not really manslaughter if he didn't die?
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: Knightslugger on October 12, 2009, 05:36:01 PM
he was shot 6 times and he didn't die?

holy shit, my fucking hero...

... in that case attempted manslaughter.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: 2old2fat2slow on October 12, 2009, 11:02:13 PM
I hope he wins his lawsuit and has a very happy life!
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: snow on October 12, 2009, 11:13:34 PM
This guy is a hero
1) He did not shoot back, I am sure he could have done that when you listen to the tape.
2) He was not afraid of dying
3) The last and only words he wanted to say after hit by 6 bullets "I love you" too his family.

And now for the cops part, fired would be a excellent starting point. I want to say shot but that's against my better judgment.
Anybody in here who is a cop that likes to defend your collega's, like in, you do not know what it takes to be a cop etcetera?
Not saying that all cops are like this, but if you even try to make this sound like a "accident" then please go to your officer and give him your weapons, preferably without accidentally shouting him.
Damn, I wish I could be in the jury in this case, I would be yelling guilty every time they opened there mouth.

Thanks for posting this, going to use this as a example many many times.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: excat on October 13, 2009, 10:24:14 PM
This article goes a little more in depth

http://abcnews.go.com/US/phoenix-family-lawsuit-cops-shot-homeowner-intruder/Story?id=8756441&page=1

just another cock sucker with a badge....
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: f3racer on October 14, 2009, 11:14:01 AM
Its funny. I have been on many forums and in comparison i have seen a maturity level on this forum that is much higher than on others. But this thread has shown otherwise. I, as a police officer, will say that from what i have read these officers failed to abide by the much reveered rule to identify you culprit before firing, but on the same token they did not know who owned the house, they did not know who the bad guy was. so officers are also taught to protect the life of others. the man had his finger on the trigger of the weapon...........therefore authorizing deadly force. Do i know the WHOLE story, the WHOLE TRUE story. No i dont. do i say the cops are right or wrong. no i dont. the news has a way of making stories things they are not. I have seen news stories that label all sportbike riders as a hooligans and lawbreakers. did we immediately take what the news said a gospel? no we didnt. so why do we do it now? because the police are the ones who's name is at risk.  as far as shooting the guy while he is on the ground.......yes whoever fired after he was down should have been removed from the force.

snow.....i am going to say that most people do not know what it is like on that end. are those cops wrong? most likeley but there are 3 sides to every story, yours, thiers, and the truth. i am not trying to make this an accident. it is onvious that the cops shot with intent to wound, if not kill.


blindkiller.....the police do not have to have a gun pointed at them to fire, they have to see life in danger.  if you were being held at gun point would you want the cop to just put his gun away until it is pointed at him? having your concealed carry doesnt give you anymore knowledge on being a cop than anyhting else.

its easy for everyone to say "if it was me" or "if i was there",  but in all actuality you have no clue what you would do uless you have been put it that position.


deadlyracereplica....so because they are cops they will get away with it?  i have seen many cops get hammered for some of the most simple things. anyone hear about the cop that got fired for getting clocked at 140 on his gsxr?


no doubt. reading these stories leaves little to say about the cops actions. once again i am not justifying the cops actions.  i just want to see something other than immediate cop bashing by everyone. if you want to criticize the cops actions then do so, but some of these posts are more than just criticism.
things like "just another cock sucker with a badge" and  :fu: are not constructive in any way. i understand your right to say what you will. being a soldier i am know i fight for that right everyday.   but remember your rights end where others rights begin.

ONCE AGAIN TO MAKE SURE I AM UNDERSTOOD. I DO NOT AGREE WITH WHAT THE COPS DID. I AGREE WITH THE HOMEOWNER.
 Just remember no-one here on this forum was there on scene whan it happened.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: blindkiller on October 14, 2009, 01:00:33 PM
I'm not going to go on a rant of the a-typical " they protect their own to no end ". I can some what agree that until I've been in the circumstance I don't know fully, I'll give you that. But have you?

For the cops and your reply towards me further, if I was the intruder into the home no I wouldn't want him to put his gun away. That's more idiocy than what happened in the first place and just un-reasonable. Considering the circumstance in which the police were notified and why they were going to the home, why the hell did they not know anything? This much is common knowledge that the officers do not need a gun pointed at them to fire. However, I see no signs of anything to startle the officers to give them the intent to fire. To my knowledge all police officers training are geared towards diffusing the situation first. Did that happen, by the way the story is told, not at all.

Thankfully you do agree that there were massive amounts of wrong doing in this situation. In deadlyracereplica's defense there are many, many more than not, that the police officers do something wrong and go away scotch free than get punished. I'm not talking something like running red lights all day and night like out of the movies and in real life, or harassment, I'm talking circumstances like this one where someone nearly died and nothing was done at all. Hence, the lawsuit.

As far as the comparison to sport bike riders and police officers, this does have a considerable legitimacy. However, the police " fraternity ", if you will, has much more going for it as they are in positions of power. We all know from riding there are those people that truly define the media's image of sport bike riders and there are decent number that try to defy that logic and projection. There are still plenty around to reinforce it though. Who also plays a major factor into this image is the police officers again.

I had a pretty large amount of hate for officers in the first place because I've always been wronged by them. I was hit twice on my CBR and both of them were no faulted. Why? Because of the generic image that they assume of us, and displayed by the media. Being in my early twenties when they both occurred I knew I fit the profile but I would do my absolute best to avoid being " that guy". I'll keep the thread on topic at this rate and PM you and see what you think of these stories weather I was wronged or not.  (EDIT) In other thoughts, I won't PM you as I don't want to agitate myself or you.

I'm also either misreading it or taking it out of my own bias, but I find it rather amusing that you express and rate this forum as "immature" for one thread and a few opinions that are short quick and to the point. Not only that but the small irony of the thread title in it's own. But do look around and see how many times you see this on any forums. You just generically see it less here because the generic demographic of this forum are not 17 year old's and we are used to being discriminated so we stick together and treat each other as nicely as we can.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: f3racer on October 14, 2009, 03:27:34 PM
I'm not going to go on a rant of the a-typical " they protect their own to no end ". I can some what agree that until I've been in the circumstance I don't know fully, I'll give you that. But have you?


i have been in this type of situation. and i agree, that most will protect their fellow officers
i have been a cop for 7 yrs now.

why the hell did they not know anything? This much is common knowledge that the officers do not need a gun pointed at them to fire. However, I To my knowledge all police officers training are geared towards diffusing the situation first. Did that happen, by the way the story is told, not at all.

that is where they screwed up royally. not listening to the dispatcher and being able to tell the difference.  but there are levels of force. you respond with the level of force needed to diffuse the situation quickest and safest. another thing the officer didnt do.

there are many, many more than not, that the police officers do something wrong and go away scotch free than get punished. I'm not talking something like running red lights all day and night like out of the movies and in real life, or harassment, I'm talking circumstances like this one where someone nearly died and nothing was done at all. Hence, the lawsuit.

i agree the lawsuit is definately justified. and i will also say i do not know the stats of how many get away with what.


As far as the comparison to sport bike riders and police officers, this does have a considerable legitimacy. However, the police " fraternity ", if you will, has much more going for it as they are in positions of power. We all know from riding there are those people that truly define the media's image of sport bike riders and there are decent number that try to defy that logic and projection. There are still plenty around to reinforce it though. Who also plays a major factor into this image is the police officers again.


i do agree that the police play a role in this, but my point is that the media plays the largest role in blowing things out of proportion.


I had a pretty large amount of hate for officers in the first place because I've always been wronged by them.

I can understand how you may feel to law enforcement, but i am 31 and only been a cop for 7 yrs. For instance when i was 23 me and my father were riding through Altamonte Springs, FL (if anyone on here is familiar they have some of the worst cops ive ever encountered) a cop slung his car in front of us at a light, jumped out, drew his weapon, and put us on the ground face first. He then proceeded to wheel our bikes into the grass median where my fathers pristine at the time 93 cbr 900 rr fell onto my hurricane. Back up showed and then realized that the description of the motorcyclist that ran from another cop was waaaaaaay off from our description. they let us up and let us go. The department paid for our damage and the cop was no more than yelled at. I am sincerely sorry that you were done wrong. there is no justification for it, it just happens.

 (EDIT) In other thoughts, I won't PM you as I don't want to agitate myself or you.


as long as you dont disrespect me i will not be agitated

I'm also either misreading it or taking it out of my own bias, but I find it rather amusing that you express and rate this forum as "immature" for one thread and a few opinions that are short quick and to the point.

i did not say that the forum itself was immature but a few of the responses.

 But do look around and see how many times you see this on any forums. You just generically see it less here because the generic demographic of this forum are not 17 year old's and we are used to being discriminated so we stick together and treat each other as nicely as we can.

this was my point i have seen this on many forums and find it extremely immature.

Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: blindkiller on October 14, 2009, 05:36:11 PM
I can agree fully about the Altamonte Springs officers. The only thing you're leaving out in that area is that the Winter Park officers are just as bad depending on their mood as I was born and raised here. When it becomes the appropriate time I will give you details but it's not right now.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: snow on October 14, 2009, 08:24:06 PM
Fact, I was not there, tapes could easily be misleading, especially on the internet, missing important parts  of evidence. But looking at the source of the tape in combination with the material on it, it sound really convincing about what could have been taken place. I will never argue that we do not know exactly what happened.

Lets assume the home owner was on the ground and the bandit was holding the gun, lets even assume he already kilt the family. If the officers came in the same way as we think they did, and shot the bad guy holding the gun, saving the life of the home owner lying on the floor at gun point,  then still on the evidence presented, I would like them to face the same trial.

If you assign to be a cop you should think of it as a being a medic who has some extra tools that make a lot of noise and scares the bad guy's away so you can help your victim. If you shoot a medic most of them are thinking, crap I could not even check the pols of my patient and now they can not even donate my pancreas because there are to many holes in it.

I also wanted to add that replying to this thread by people who are officers is a sign of responsibility, and do appreciate it.


Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: f3racer on October 16, 2009, 08:39:45 AM
I can agree fully about the Altamonte Springs officers. The only thing you're leaving out in that area is that the Winter Park officers are just as bad depending on their mood as I was born and raised here. When it becomes the appropriate time I will give you details but it's not right now.

you know as long as i lived in apopka, altamonte springs, casselberry and orlando, i never dealt with any winter park pd. but i did hear they were horrrible.



If you assign to be a cop you should think of it as a being a medic who has some extra tools that make a lot of noise and scares the bad guy's away so you can help your victim. If you shoot a medic most of them are thinking, crap I could not even check the pols of my patient and now they can not even donate my pancreas because there are to many holes in it.



i agree.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: blindkiller on October 16, 2009, 12:50:25 PM
They aren't as bad as the example you used in terms of excessive force. But they never have anything better to do typically other than harass you. I'll give you a case and point. My father and I both have gotten tickets while going around a sharp corner and going 1 mph over the speed limit. Not a warning, a ticket.

Where do you live now if you don't mind my asking.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: f3racer on October 16, 2009, 01:02:27 PM
in the army stationed in Missouri. i joined the army when i graduated from high school there in 96. i lived over by bear lake. my parents still do. went to lake brantley high school.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: Low Light on October 17, 2009, 02:35:52 PM
I love all you armchair lawyers that watch a few episodes of cops and think you're a freakin senior officer now. Keep hanging on every word that the media puts out. It just shows your ignorance. Unless you've been in a shoot/no shoot situation you have NO idea. You should be thanking every cop that you come across. If it wasn't for them you would live in fear daily. Yes, they make mistakes. They are human. That doesn't give you the right to jump on every cop that makes one. You don't have the knowledge or the experiance to say a damn thing.

F3racer: Thank you for your service
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: some_guy79 on October 17, 2009, 09:55:56 PM
F3racer,
Thanks, it's nice for someone with a bit of perspective on the subject to comment here. Even more, I'm glad to see you haven't taken it all too personally. +1
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: f3racer on October 19, 2009, 10:44:07 AM
F3racer,
Thanks, it's nice for someone with a bit of perspective on the subject to comment here. Even more, I'm glad to see you haven't taken it all too personally. +1

cant say ive always been this way. i used to get all kinds of fired up on this stuff. then i realized alot of people feed off of that and it just makes it worse.

Thank you for your service

thanks for the support. i also want to thank blindkiller and snow for their explaining their point of view without making this a huge angry arguement. i appreciate, and respect that.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: blindkiller on October 19, 2009, 12:38:48 PM
I'm one of those guys that doesn't per say like to argue. But I like to state my point and feelings on it and I'm logical and mature enough to respect and consider all other opinion's and rationalize it so that I don't look like a tool. But, I still don't like cops.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: f3racer on October 19, 2009, 01:15:51 PM
But, I still don't like cops.

point taken.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: Jeff on October 19, 2009, 03:50:06 PM
News outlets are nothing short of entertainment..

While I really have no love for John Mayer, the words "when you trust the television, what you get is what you got, 'cause when they own the information they can bend it all they want" are about the truest words ever spoken.  The media is selling entertainment.  It is ALWAYS slanted in one way or another.  Embellished, downplayed, withheld, etc. 

Look at Rodney King and the riots that ensued.  The world saw like 20 seconds of video from a 20 minute (IIRC) recording.  Those 20 seconds were cops beating the living fuck out of him.  The rest of the 20 minutes were what literally required those cops to do much of what they did.  Am I saying that RK deserved what he got?  No.  I'm just saying that the world would have had a MUCH better appreciation for it and understanding of it if they had ALL of the information in an unbiased manner.

Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: f3racer on October 19, 2009, 03:55:43 PM
thats the best description i have heard yet.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: 2old2fat2slow on October 19, 2009, 04:54:09 PM
I have several very good friends that are or were cops. I have told them the following statement to their faces and they have agreed with me.
"most cops are douchebags"
I don't like most cops either Blindkiller.

Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: blindkiller on October 19, 2009, 05:59:21 PM
point taken.

I have several very good friends that are or were cops. I have told them the following statement to their faces and they have agreed with me.
"most cops are douchebags"
I don't like most cops either Blindkiller.



To each their own I guess. I know thus far I have not met a cop that I liked or that I thought did me justice. No, still not talking about petty things of me breaking the law and getting a speeding ticket. I deserved it if I broke the law. But I have either been in the situation myself, been a witness or happened to a family member to just never have a good opinion on law enforcement.

Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: seancusmc on October 24, 2009, 03:55:24 PM
Read the story and heard the 911 call. I am sad to say that I have also read the posts in this thread and I am sorry that many of you feel like cops in general are the enemy.
Cops work hard every day to do what they think is best to help people, maintain peace and save lives.
And so quick of some to pass judgement when no one has an idea what really happened. You think you do, but you dont.
There is only 1 person who knows that happened and why he shot that guy and that's the individual cop, and probably his partner.
My experience as a cop in a rough neighborhood was a real eye opener to situations like these. I have been to Iraq with the Marines before and it doesnt compare to the stress put on a cop when answering a call where shots have been fired, the suspect is on scene and still has the gun and there are innocent lives at risk, including your own.
Once that call comes over the air, your adrenaline pumps and you rush over to the location, many times the important details of the call are omitted by dispatch. If he knew that the homeowner had the suspect at gunpoint, things would have gone down alot differently, don't you think?
But he knew the bad guy had a gun and that he had already fired it, so what would stop him from using it again?
If a call like that came over the air, and when I arrived on the scene and saw someone pointing a gun at another person, I might have fired too.
You should look at this as an individual case and stop trying to burn this cop without knowing anything that really happened because another cop made you mad in the past.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: blindkiller on October 25, 2009, 03:20:00 AM
Read the story and heard the 911 call. I am sad to say that I have also read the posts in this thread and I am sorry that many of you feel like cops in general are the enemy.
Cops work hard every day to do what they think is best to help people, maintain peace and save lives.
And so quick of some to pass judgement when no one has an idea what really happened. You think you do, but you dont.
There is only 1 person who knows that happened and why he shot that guy and that's the individual cop, and probably his partner.
My experience as a cop in a rough neighborhood was a real eye opener to situations like these. I have been to Iraq with the Marines before and it doesnt compare to the stress put on a cop when answering a call where shots have been fired, the suspect is on scene and still has the gun and there are innocent lives at risk, including your own.
Once that call comes over the air, your adrenaline pumps and you rush over to the location, many times the important details of the call are omitted by dispatch. If he knew that the homeowner had the suspect at gunpoint, things would have gone down alot differently, don't you think?
But he knew the bad guy had a gun and that he had already fired it, so what would stop him from using it again?
If a call like that came over the air, and when I arrived on the scene and saw someone pointing a gun at another person, I might have fired too.
You should look at this as an individual case and stop trying to burn this cop without knowing anything that really happened because another cop made you mad in the past.

Next time you're resuscitated twice, permanently disabled and no charges filed though they know who did it you let me know.

I feel as a general census a lot of cops are doing nothing purposeful, some for most of their careers. I know and agree fully that there are plenty of cops that do right and serve the best they can. There are very few of these that I've ever encountered even over the news in comparison.

Like I said though, to each their own.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: seancusmc on October 25, 2009, 03:54:17 AM
You follow cops around and measure their productivity? Your words are empty because you don't anything about cops except you see a car on the side of the road and assume that all cops are doing nothing.
I bet you are the type of person who will choke on a chicken bone in a restaurant, then sue the balls off of  the guy that saved your life because he accidentally broke one of your ribs.
I smite you because you have no soul and you do not deserve the protection the police provide, even though they will continue to provide it. I hope you get a speeding ticket soon.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: blindkiller on October 25, 2009, 12:24:16 PM
You follow cops around and measure their productivity? Your words are empty because you don't anything about cops except you see a car on the side of the road and assume that all cops are doing nothing.
I bet you are the type of person who will choke on a chicken bone in a restaurant, then sue the balls off of  the guy that saved your life because he accidentally broke one of your ribs.
I smite you because you have no soul and you do not deserve the protection the police provide, even though they will continue to provide it. I hope you get a speeding ticket soon.

Sorry no but I have better things to do, and if you could read I said a " general census " and agreed that there are ones that do. Does not change my mind about liking or disliking cops as that will not change for a long long time.

As far as me getting a speeding ticket, if I'm dumb enough to break the law I deserve whats coming to me. Smiting me? Hah, whatever man, you go for it and click that button to your hearts content if it makes you sleep better at night.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: 2old2fat2slow on October 25, 2009, 08:20:29 PM
Geeez! You guys are taking this way to serious...............
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: SilverRider24 on October 25, 2009, 11:19:44 PM
^Agreed
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: Low Light on October 26, 2009, 09:33:00 PM
It's a personal subject. A lot of us spend most of our lives protecting assholes like this that just publically bash the people that protect him. I bet if he started talking shit about soldiers there would be an uproar. Cops are just as important.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: blindkiller on October 26, 2009, 11:04:52 PM
It's a personal subject. A lot of us spend most of our lives protecting assholes like this that just publically bash the people that protect him. I bet if he started talking shit about soldiers there would be an uproar. Cops are just as important.

The difference there being there is no influence on a daily basis of a soldier being the one enforcing the law and the implications of them enforcing the law as stated in this thread.

Also, in my mind a soldier is much much different in a lot of ways. He's trained to execute orders given by superiors with the best ability he has, generically speaking. Aside from obvious orders that he is told not to obey, i.e. execution of women, children, unarmed civilians, torture, etc etc. The only people you can really bash in the armed forces are the inability and ill training of said superiors, in my opinion at least. Beyond that, the only thing you can bash is then why they are there and what fucktard president sent them and for what reasons. Not like it's often you hear about people doing what they did in Vietnam, though it does happen to some extent I can imagine.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: f3racer on October 27, 2009, 09:20:19 AM
The difference there being there is no influence on a daily basis of a soldier being the one enforcing the law and the implications of them enforcing the law as stated in this thread.

Also, in my mind a soldier is much much different in a lot of ways. He's trained to execute orders given by superiors with the best ability he has, generically speaking. Aside from obvious orders that he is told not to obey, i.e. execution of women, children, unarmed civilians, torture, etc etc. The only people you can really bash in the armed forces are the inability and ill training of said superiors, in my opinion at least. Beyond that, the only thing you can bash is then why they are there and what fucktard president sent them and for what reasons. Not like it's often you hear about people doing what they did in Vietnam, though it does happen to some extent I can imagine.


like i said before I am a US Army Military Police officer and to be completely honest it is not very different. The only real differences is 1: the amount of firepower a soldier carries   2: if a soldier disobeys orders there can be serious ramifications 

if you look at it this way.  a soldier operates in a team the way a SWAT team does.

Cops are just as important.

i agree.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: Low Light on October 27, 2009, 10:06:39 PM
blindkiller: You sir, are a retard. Are you even american? If so, do you speak english?
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: blindkiller on October 27, 2009, 11:13:05 PM
Retard, no not really. Yes I am born and raised in Orlando and I think that's self explanatory on english.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: ian on October 28, 2009, 12:03:52 AM
lol you guys need to learn to agree to disagree. no matter how much you guys throw at each other, you guys will never come to an agreement.

yes, majority of americans dislike cops but will call them first whenever shit hits the fan. everyone knows this. you can't force someone to change their opinion about cops. we all know whether admitting it or not that cops have a tough job and its not all donuts and coffee like the stereotype says..otherwise we'd all settled for $70k/year to pull people over daily just to mess with them  ;D
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: seancusmc on October 28, 2009, 11:34:15 PM
I am a police officer in New York and I am a Marine Reservist currently stationed in Iraq. I can tell you this about the mentality of the Police officer and that of the Soldier - they are very similar. In fact many former Marines and Soldiers are cops and do very well at it. If you dont like what cops do BTW, call you local politicians and tell them to order the cops to stop writing tickets. Because like a soldier, they too are following orders.
As both a cop and a Marine I have had to deal with hate from ignorant people such as yourself - raised on MTV Gangsta rap, saying "fuck the police;"  you are the same spoiled rich kid that the police protect from the thugs you see waving the gang signs that you hold such a high opinion,
This is the new generation of Americans. The generation raised by antiestablishment hippes from the 70's and MTV. Most have never truly had to work for anything and have no idea what the rest of the world is like. But they hate the cops because the TV tells them that its cool to. They hate the soldiers and hold signs that say "thank god for IED's"
Read some books, or better yet, get some life experience before you jump on the cop hating bandwagon like the rest of the sheep.
Bahh  Bahh
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: ian on October 28, 2009, 11:40:14 PM
I am a police officer in New York and I am a Marine Reservist currently stationed in Iraq. I can tell you this about the mentality of the Police officer and that of the Soldier - they are very similar. In fact many former Marines and Soldiers are cops and do very well at it. If you dont like what cops do BTW, call you local politicians and tell them to order the cops to stop writing tickets. Because like a soldier, they too are following orders.
As both a cop and a Marine I have had to deal with hate from ignorant people such as yourself - raised on MTV Gangsta rap, saying "fuck the police;"  you are the same spoiled rich kid that the police protect from the thugs you see waving the gang signs that you hold such a high opinion,
This is the new generation of Americans. The generation raised by antiestablishment hippes from the 70's and MTV. Most have never truly had to work for anything and have no idea what the rest of the world is like. But they hate the cops because the TV tells them that its cool to. They hate the soldiers and hold signs that say "thank god for IED's"
Read some books, or better yet, get some life experience before you jump on the cop hating bandwagon like the rest of the sheep.
Bahh  Bahh
;D i must concur completely. very nicely put.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: Knightslugger on October 28, 2009, 11:55:48 PM
;D i must concur completely. very nicely put.

i can't. A rather one sided simplistic view of the piece of pie...
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: f3racer on October 29, 2009, 09:13:56 AM
i can't. A rather one sided simplistic view of the piece of pie...

but you can concur with the other one sided simplistic piece of the pie?
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: Knightslugger on October 29, 2009, 10:14:44 AM
no i can't say that i can agree with the other side either. both are quite warped.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: f3racer on October 29, 2009, 11:13:06 AM
no i can't say that i can agree with the other side either. both are quite warped.

i agree that neither is right, but i dont think i would say they are warped.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: Knightslugger on October 29, 2009, 11:38:20 AM
well i certainly see it that way.

Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: blindkiller on October 29, 2009, 03:22:57 PM
i agree that neither is right, but i dont think i would say they are warped.

well i certainly see it that way.

I wouldn't quite say that they are warped. More so personalized opinions and thoughts of individuals that are on both sides of the said parties. So they each have different aspects, views and opinions of the matter.

I respect both sides, my own and the opposing, though I might not agree with the other person.
Title: Re: Fuck Police.
Post by: excat on November 01, 2009, 12:04:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57yi3Asgov4

Here's another good and new story that sounds pretty b.s. My morning radio show I listen to was talking about this, and had to see what I could find....not even allowed to be nude in our own homes now I suppose.

http://reason.com/blog/2009/10/21/man-arrested-for-being-naked-i

and a follow up story...

http://www.myfoxdc.com/dpp/news/local/102109_naked_man_arrested_after_making_coffee_update