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Title: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: Phenominon on April 22, 2009, 01:59:59 PM
I had last weekend off so i spent some time on the computer looking at race vids. I said that i would never change my bike for raceing on a track nor would i race on a track but the things i saw  impressed me and now ive had a change of heart.

In order to get my bike ready for raceing what parts would i need? Im completely clueless and a list of mods and links would help so i could figure out the amount of money I would be spending. Im riding a bone stock 07 by the way. Any knowledge would be helpful thanks
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: Knightslugger on April 22, 2009, 02:19:51 PM
competitive or trackday?
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: Jeff on April 22, 2009, 02:43:32 PM
Oh jesus...  If I had a nickel for each time I was asked this question, I'd have enough to fund you for your first year!

Bare ass minimum you're looking around $10k just to get ON the track.  Then figure $10k up to $50+k per season... 

All depends on how hard you want to run and how competitive you are.  In my relatively simple program my sponsors and I went through $30-$40k per season.  It's not hard at all.  And that doesn't include the cost of bikes, or prepping them ($20k each) or the tools/trailer/truck (or RV) etc...

Can you race on $3k?  well, if you have a prepped bike, all your safety gear and only run a few weekends with only a single set of tires.  Sure... 

If you want to actually improve?  you'd better have a shit ton of disposable income.
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: Phenominon on April 22, 2009, 07:38:07 PM
Hmm thats alot ... i have a kid on the way so il have to wait a few years darn  :'(
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: excat on April 22, 2009, 07:48:22 PM
Kiddo on the way at 17-best of luck. Sell the bike and save the money, and save every penny you get...it's expensive my friend.
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: tankie2ndrtr on April 22, 2009, 08:15:01 PM
-72 Smite ?... you bought a Kawasaki or something ?....
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: cobes on April 22, 2009, 09:53:13 PM
Yeah I didn't spend a whole lot my first 1.5 years.  I def. spent like 20k on the '08 and yeah tires....  If I quit racing I would a lot more money but be miserasble
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: nut on April 23, 2009, 12:23:29 AM
Kiddo on the way at 17-best of luck. Sell the bike and save the money, and save every penny you get...it's expensive my friend.
17 with a kid  :-X , not to be an ass hole but i dont even know why you own a sportbike  :-X i'd do what excat said...like yesterday, then as we say in the navy, carry on smartly  :thumb:
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: Phenominon on April 23, 2009, 10:14:22 AM
Kiddo on the way at 17-best of luck. Sell the bike and save the money, and save every penny you get...it's expensive my friend.

Yah i concidered selling the bike as soon as we knew for sure she was pregnant, but she wont let me . Right now i only have about 3k saved up. The worst part about all of this is that I turn 18 in june and than my parents are expecting me to get my own place. Good thing i have a good summer job. i still have 6 and a half months til my child is born so im going to try and save up as much money as i posibly can. I wil probably sell my nice car and just drive my beater. Idk yet tho what the world has in store for me  :'(     lol i shulda just  :jerkoff:
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: nut on April 23, 2009, 11:30:48 AM
Yah i concidered selling the bike as soon as we knew for sure she was pregnant,but she wont let me
:-X for some reason i really cant fathom that
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: excat on April 23, 2009, 11:48:02 AM
It's not easy man, and it only gets worse before it gets better! Stay smart, and that reason right there is why you shouldn't be out stunting...not for your own well being, but for your kid and your girl. All it takes is going down one time, and....fuck your FAMILIES life up in seek of a little thrill...

That's one of the hardest things to realize is you have a family now, it's not just you anymore.

One tip I would give you, every pay day, go out and buy one of the biggest boxes of diapers you can til you get around 4/5 boxes of one size, then move up to size 2...3.. it definitely helps. Save your reciepts on EVERYTHING you get, especially clothes. Sometimes you'll buy clothes and they'll out grow the damn things before they even get a chance to wear them, take those fuckers back.

It may all sound nickel and dimes now, but when you start adding up the $20 can of formula 2-3 times a month, $180 wk for child care(here in OK that's avg wk rate), $50-60 a month in diapers. Your looking at close to a grand a month just in necessities, then add your 2 week, 4 week, 2 mth, 4, and 6 mth dr appointments and then vaccines, clothes, furniture, toys, car seat, strollers, etc..etc.. My last bill for shots for my son was $680, and this is only his second set (4 mth check up).

BUT they are worth EVERY PENNY, AND EVERY MINUTE IN THOSE SLEEPLESS NIGHTS! Just remember that.
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: nut on April 23, 2009, 11:56:52 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: Phenominon on April 23, 2009, 01:04:28 PM
It's not easy man, and it only gets worse before it gets better! Stay smart, and that reason right there is why you shouldn't be out stunting...not for your own well being, but for your kid and your girl. All it takes is going down one time, and....fuck your FAMILIES life up in seek of a little thrill...

That's one of the hardest things to realize is you have a family now, it's not just you anymore.

One tip I would give you, every pay day, go out and buy one of the biggest boxes of diapers you can til you get around 4/5 boxes of one size, then move up to size 2...3.. it definitely helps. Save your reciepts on EVERYTHING you get, especially clothes. Sometimes you'll buy clothes and they'll out grow the damn things before they even get a chance to wear them, take those fuckers back.

It may all sound nickel and dimes now, but when you start adding up the $20 can of formula 2-3 times a month, $180 wk for child care(here in OK that's avg wk rate), $50-60 a month in diapers. Your looking at close to a grand a month just in necessities, then add your 2 week, 4 week, 2 mth, 4, and 6 mth dr appointments and then vaccines, clothes, furniture, toys, car seat, strollers, etc..etc.. My last bill for shots for my son was $680, and this is only his second set (4 mth check up).

BUT they are worth EVERY PENNY, AND EVERY MINUTE IN THOSE SLEEPLESS NIGHTS! Just remember that.


Thx for the tips m8 ;D I quit stunting about a week ago actualy lol thats how i got into looking at racing. I bent my front tire up and decided Im done with that . I dont think im quite as nervous as i should be about this whole haveing a kid thing . But I am going to do evrything in my power to make sure my family will have the best life posible.

:-X for some reason i really cant fathom that

She told me that she wouldent let me give up something that i love that much, unless things get way to hard and we need something horibly bad. I talked to dad and he said if it gets to hard he would buy the bike back from me and use it for work again. ( hes a home health physical therapist)
;D and +1 to y'all for the positive insight
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: nut on April 23, 2009, 02:14:43 PM
i see, im just wondering, was she saying that to be nice, trying not to be a ball and chain, or did she really mean it  ???
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: Stigo69 on April 23, 2009, 03:01:11 PM
good luck with the little one man!  Hope everything works out for ya
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: Jeff on April 23, 2009, 03:25:29 PM
Get your priorities in order and understand that "the best life possible" doesn't mean surrounding yourself with shit you don't need.  Love that kid & woman with your heart & soul.  And if you can't love the woman, so be it, but stand by that kid...  And that certainly doesn't mean pissing away every dime you have on frivolous bullshit like bikes or racing...

 
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: nut on April 23, 2009, 04:07:37 PM
Get your priorities in order and understand that "the best life possible" doesn't mean surrounding yourself with shit you don't need.  Love that kid & woman with your heart & soul.  And if you can't love the woman, so be it, but stand by that kid...  And that certainly doesn't mean pissing away every dime you have on frivolous bullshit like bikes or racing...

 
;D
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: some_guy79 on April 23, 2009, 04:20:18 PM
this is just to clarify. Jeff's estimates must have been for racing competitively, not track days. Track days will cost much less.
$100 in parts (oil, coolant, filter, do work yourself)
$1000 in safety gear (full leathers, boots, I assume you have gloves and helmet)
$300 - $500 per set of tires
$150 - $250 per day entry fee
$$$ when you crash it to fix the bike and yourself
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: excat on April 23, 2009, 07:59:28 PM
I'll tell you when the nerves hit me... due date and he still wasn't here. My son was a week late, and I was scared shitless that he was ok, then when we went to the hospital when it was time it crashed down on me. It really doesn't become REAL for a while, not the first day they are here, generally a few days later. Family is all around, and everyone pays attention to the newbie and the mom, and the dad is kind of left out in the dark. A few days later after the new wears off with all the family, and it's just you, your girl, and kid... that is when it gets real. Dealing with a crying baby by yourself, the frustrating late night wake ups, hormones with the girl....that is when it sinks in. If your not afriad to read a little, you may look into the book "The Expectant Father." A lot of good useful stuff in there if you are actually serious about wanting to HELP prepare yourself to be a father.
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: SilverRider24 on April 23, 2009, 09:49:07 PM
Focus on being a good father. Then go into track riding/racing.

When you do get into the track riding, know your experience level. If your looking at the proffesional races and think it would be fun to get into, then thats great. But what you see on tv is people who have been racing to some extent for most of or all of their life. My advise to you is to sign up for a track day/racing school of some extent. Just remember that these bike can do a lot. They are capable of running fast lap times and hard unforgiveable crashes. If the rider has no or minimal experience, the bike can't do shit. Period! Learn up so you can have fun doing it.
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: DeadlyRaceReplica on April 23, 2009, 10:02:02 PM
All I have to say is if you keep the bike your taking away from your child unless mommy and daddy will flip the bill for you house and lets not forget all the baby shit. I imagine your not a ceo of a company or make a whole lot of scratch so you need to do what NEEDS to be done not what you WANT.
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: Phenominon on April 24, 2009, 10:19:35 AM
Focus on being a good father. Then go into track riding/racing.

When you do get into the track riding, know your experience level. If your looking at the proffesional races and think it would be fun to get into, then thats great. But what you see on tv is people who have been racing to some extent for most of or all of their life. My advise to you is to sign up for a track day/racing school of some extent. Just remember that these bike can do a lot. They are capable of running fast lap times and hard unforgiveable crashes. If the rider has no or minimal experience, the bike can't do shit. Period! Learn up so you can have fun doing it.

I didnt wana like race competitively just hit a few track days before I found out how much it would cost.




All I have to say is if you keep the bike your taking away from your child unless mommy and daddy will flip the bill for you house and lets not forget all the baby shit. I imagine your not a ceo of a company or make a whole lot of scratch so you need to do what NEEDS to be done not what you WANT.


Im not a Ceo of a company or anything like that. I make a simple 15$ an hour, but im going to be working on the oilrigs this sumer and give up my nice cushy job so that i can make 35$ an hour. I'm also selling my 02 eclipse for cash, I'm going to do evrything i can for my child.  If i need to sell my bike i will,but not until the time is right. I still have awile till its born and alot to learn and prepare for and im trying realy hard.
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: nut on April 24, 2009, 02:09:21 PM
but im going to be working on the oilrigs this sumer and give up my nice cushy job so that i can make 35$ an hour.
:-X i know your not a driller, excat and i used to be roughnecks, i know out here in oklahoma $25 is about top dollar, if i were you i wouldnt expect more than $20 as a green chain hand..... good luck, the way they've got these newer rigs there isnt a whole lot of real work to be done unless your going in or coming out of the hole,  hell 90% of thime i was getting paid to scrub pumps and fuck off on our telehandler  8)
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: excat on April 24, 2009, 02:22:01 PM
Depends on what state he's living in. Some places are paying top dollar right now for experienced hands, just depends on if your green weather or not you have a way in. I was making $22/hr with 4 years experience. Company I worked for was one of the highest paying in the state, but you didn't have days off. We worked 7 days a week, no days off.

Your right on the new rigs, that's why most places are under hiring freezes, work has slowed down, and with the new rigs, they can run 4 man crews no problem now, as compared to some of the older compound rigs that require anywhere from 5-9 hands depending on size and company they are working for.

, the way they've got these newer rigs there isnt a whole lot of real work to be done unless your going in or coming out of the hole,  hell 90% of thime i was getting paid to scrub pumps and fuck off on our telehandler 

that's why you don't work on a rig anymore.... there's ALWAYS work to be done on a rig, no matter what's going on...what can i say i'm a hardass and i was good at my job...keeping mother fuckers busy, and making sure the job was done right, no matter what.
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: nut on April 24, 2009, 02:37:05 PM

that's why you don't work on a rig anymore.... there's ALWAYS work to be done on a rig, no matter what's going on...what can i say i'm a hardass and i was good at my job...keeping mother fuckers busy, and making sure the job was done right, no matter what.
:P you were prolly a prick motorman or something huh lol i worked for patterson uti, and our rig was 6 months old, 5 man crew.. we busted ass goin in or coming up, hell there was one weekend we were at 9k ft, pulled up to change bits, got back and 20 minutes after the kelly was pumping mud the bit broke and we had to do it all over again, that was the longest 2 days evvvvveeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. but we had fun when we were drilling, making bombs in the mud house and shit
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: excat on April 24, 2009, 02:49:05 PM
you were prolly a prick motorman

I've been called much worse. I didn't give a shit what my co workers thought. we went through too many hands to give a shit, too many punk ass kids that just turned 18 thinking they had the balls to come out and do a mans job. we worked short handed for 6 weeks becuase we wouldn't hire anymore people w/o experience. Both my bosses were happy at what I got done on the rig everyday. I had been on that rig since it was new, I helped build the thing from the ground up.
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: nut on April 24, 2009, 03:51:56 PM
yeah, i hear that
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: Phenominon on April 24, 2009, 11:55:50 PM
I've been called much worse. I didn't give a shit what my co workers thought. we went through too many hands to give a shit, too many punk ass kids that just turned 18 thinking they had the balls to come out and do a mans job. we worked short handed for 6 weeks becuase we wouldn't hire anymore people w/o experience. Both my bosses were happy at what I got done on the rig everyday. I had been on that rig since it was new, I helped build the thing from the ground up.

Its one of the newer rigs in North Dacota, im not sure that i wil  actualy be makeing that much thats just what i was told. But im not just one of those punk ass kids that just turned 18 =) i have a giant motivation in my life to do what i need to. And it cant be much harder than my old job.
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: excat on April 25, 2009, 12:19:24 AM
And it cant be much harder than my old job.

 :P I love it when kids say that.
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: nut on April 25, 2009, 12:29:08 AM
:P I love it when kids say that.
And it cant be much harder than my old job.
:P  ;D dude when your trippin pipe your gonna wish you were back in school chasin tail, youll be out in -30 weather soaking wet wind howling hands froze and you got to work 30 minutes ago
Title: Re: Hmm change of heart and a few?s
Post by: Phenominon on April 27, 2009, 10:06:26 AM
And it cant be much harder than my old job.

 :P  ;D dude when your trippin pipe your gonna wish you were back in school chasin tail, youll be out in -30 weather soaking wet wind howling hands froze and you got to work 30 minutes ago
  :) lol yah thats gona suck but for the first 2 weeks at my old job i had to drain blood out of my boots evry night when i got home . It was shnasty