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Title: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: spdklls on March 17, 2006, 02:30:22 PM
Yes it was stupid, yes stupid hurts and yes we can all be morons now and then. Now that that's over let's get on with it...

I've had several people gawk in disbelief, shun me (not Honda owners so who cares?), and even make attempts to justify themselves by telling me how fast their litter (1000CC) or other branded 600 hits topspeed...

So the Q ? Riding out to play paint ball on a nice open road with a huge 10 miles or so straight I hit 155 on my '05 CBR 600 RR and I was only at 12k RPM. Now everyone has told me the top speed of this bike was like 145 or 150 and of course they don't own one.

So I was curious, on a stock CBR600RR, what is the top speed ?
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: arsouille on March 17, 2006, 02:49:04 PM
I saw in a magazine 165 mph ....
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Body Check on March 17, 2006, 03:07:26 PM
I have hit 154MPH on mine.   Maybe it still had a bit more speed left, but not much more.  
The problem is that the speedometer reads high.  If it is 5% high, then actual speed was 146MPH.

I saw somewhere that the bike is rated to go 160MPH.  Based on my experience and a little math, I doubt that a CBR600RR can go that fast.  The top speed must be between 150 and 160 MPH.

The question is:  Isn't that fast enough?

Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Endless on March 17, 2006, 05:00:40 PM
I've only reached 138 and had to stop due my helmet bouncing up and down. (too loose)  I've yet to reach 155, and i doubt i ever will.  BTW, there's no damn way litter can beat my bike.  :P :P 
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Ozjack on March 17, 2006, 06:26:23 PM
A good race bike will top out at around 265 on the straight at Phillip Island, the stock bike`s speedo is out by some percentage and will struggle to reacha genuine 260 unless theres a tail wind!! In reality its geared for around 162mph, but you need to spend some time with the throttle fully open in top gear to get there.
Funny question for someone who`s user name is SPDKLLS ??? :-[
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: spdklls on March 18, 2006, 12:45:29 AM
Eh, SPDKLLS is my license plate too...

I was just curious really. I see all the Pro bikes hitting 180's on straights but they are also modified. Not sure what the stock pro bikes are doing.

Is it fast enough ? For the street yes, for the track not even close. I guess I'll be investing in some sprockets come this summer.

Thanks for all the feedback !
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: cycledrum on March 18, 2006, 12:54:30 AM
In reality, top speed might vary a bit.  Do you have a headwind or tailwind?  All those things play into it.  Even tire condition, bike maintenance will likely make a difference.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Fretless33 on March 18, 2006, 01:55:03 AM
Is it fast enough ? For the street yes, for the track not even close. I guess I'll be investing in some sprockets come this summer.

Most tracks in my area, you'll never get to the rev limiter in 6th gear because the straights aren't long enough and if you gear for speed then you're going to loose acceleration, and you need that acceleration to be fast in the turns...exactly where you'll kick a lot of 1000cc bike's asses...top speed doesn't mean much at many tracks.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: spdklls on March 18, 2006, 09:55:03 AM
Tailwind or Headwind ? Honestly I doubt I have enough experience to even notice on a bike. So what is tailwind and headwind exactly ?

Amen to the "out of the corner speed" over "topspeed". I love seeing the litter (litre) bikes get frustrated seeing a 600 pass them coming out of a turn.

No offense to the 1000+cc riders out there, I doubt I'd ever ride a litre bike on the track. I call them litter bikes typically because they are usually the guys crashing at track days.

I can see now this is going to be tons of fun.

spdklls
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: cobes on March 18, 2006, 10:22:41 AM
Yeah if I were you I wouldn't gear for more top speed you just don't use it or need it.  I have a 15/45 now on mine and used to have a 15/43 which is just one down in the front from stock. 

So basically what I'm saying is get used to the stock gearing and then change accordingly when you have a goal in mind such as more acceleration on the track, street etc but I really wouldn't suggest going for more top end. 
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Fretless33 on March 18, 2006, 10:24:41 AM
I doubt I'd ever ride a litre bike on the track. I call them litter bikes typically because they are usually the guys crashing at track days.

LOL...I was going to say something about that spelling! Good one! :P
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Zagan on March 18, 2006, 10:51:54 AM
I've done this a few times.

2004 600RR completely stock, done this on dunlop 208s on the highway.

255KPH, or 158MPH

That's at 14,000rpm in 6th gear, so you could get 260KPH maybe another 5 KPH for a top speed of 265KPH at 15,000rpm in 6th gear.

The above speed really comes down to what the ecu has been programmed at I don't have a powercommander but I would expect it to add a tiny bit of speed seeing as the map should be all smoothed out for a nice run.

Last run I went up to 240KPH on Pilot powers, but I think the ecu map has been played around with for a higher mid range rather than top speed (I've had it serviced about a month ago), as the bike wasn't pulling much after that speed.

So from my runs I'd say 160MPH would be right, the other brands can go faster than the Honda.

the highest speed I've heard for the zx-6R is 300-310KPH (apprantly had another 1,000 or so rpm before red line) before the guy slowed up then got pulled over and dragged off the bike by 5 cops.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: mustangzgt on March 18, 2006, 11:07:32 AM
Hitting the rev limiter in to gear I've hit 168mph.  That was on a day with no wind going slightly downhill.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Seth-ZA on March 18, 2006, 11:38:58 AM
Zagan is having us play "spot the fact"? Very well then.

- With the stock 16/42 sprocket configuration, the CBR tops out at 175mi/h (282km/h) @ 15000rpm in 6th gear, although probably not, due to Honda overgearing it.
- The make and model of your tyres have no influence on acceleration or top speed whatsoever, provided you keep the dimensions standard (180/55 17inch).
- If you don't have a Power Commander your ECU "map" should still be according to factory specifications. A Power Commander is a device for changing the air/fuel mapping and ignition timing. I doubt you'll find many people modifying the ECU without one as it is basically unadjustable, except for the factory's engineers.
- Any top speed difference you noticed was definitely not because of different tyres/ECU maps, but might be something such as wind or change in incline.
- The theoretical top speed is determined by a couple of factors: frontal area, drag coefficient, power output and total mass. The actual top speed will then be affected by things such as tyre circumference, gearing, etc. The ZX-6R is definitely an aerodynamically superior bike to the CBR600RR, but not to such a dramatic extent. There is no chance that Kawasaki will gear the 636 for 320km/h in 6th, I call bullshit on that.

I've seen an indicated 270km/h with the standard gearing at an altitude of approximately 1200m above sea level. The bike was 100% stock. After dropping a teeth on the front sprocket and adding two on the rear I can now easily reach redline in 6th at an indicated 282km/h.

On a final note: http://www.cbr600rr.com/forum/index.php/topic,14092.0.html (http://www.cbr600rr.com/forum/index.php/topic,14092.0.html) -- That's what you look like after coming off at that kind of speed. Please do not test your motorcycle's topend on public roads, my runs were done on an airstrip.

EDIT: I guess I should've noted that this information applies to my CBR, 2004 model, UK version.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Fretless33 on March 18, 2006, 12:20:12 PM
- The make and model of your tyres have no influence on acceleration or top speed whatsoever

They may not affect top speed, but they WILL affect acceleration...
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Seth-ZA on March 18, 2006, 12:45:44 PM
They may not affect top speed, but they WILL affect acceleration...

Are you trying to say that a Dunlop D208 will allow me to accelerate faster than, say, a Michelin Macadam or whatever those shitty touring tyres are called? I, too, agree that tread pattern and construction affect traction. However, traction will only affect acceleration if you're doing so from rest, no?

It is worth noting that Macadams, and other touring tyres, will actually affect your top speed in the sense that it's not safe to travel faster than what your tyres are rated for. The CBR600RR should only be fitted with ZR rated tyres.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: marcmcm on March 18, 2006, 01:06:46 PM
159 mph myself indicated of course.  Who knows what that really is.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Craig04RR on March 18, 2006, 01:51:06 PM
completely stock  my bike topped out at 266kmhr, with my gear change it is 280kmhr topped out in 6th, but unfortunately its not going that fast.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Fretless33 on March 18, 2006, 02:55:50 PM
I know I'm being petty but...

Are you trying to say that a Dunlop D208 will allow me to accelerate faster than, say, a Michelin Macadam or whatever those shitty touring tyres are called? I, too, agree that tread pattern and construction affect traction. However, traction will only affect acceleration if you're doing so from rest, no?

It is worth noting that Macadams, and other touring tyres, will actually affect your top speed in the sense that it's not safe to travel faster than what you're tyres are rated for. The CBR600RR should only be fitted with ZR rated tyres.

With what you just wrote you disproved what you previously stated about tires not affecting top speed or acceleration...

Your previous statement:

- The make and model of your tyres have no influence on acceleration or top speed whatsoever, provided you keep the dimensions standard (180/55 17inch).

You write how the make and model won't affect top speed, then later give an example of how the make and model will affect top speed...

A stickier tire will permit faster corner speed and obviously improves acceleration (while moving), which you'll find out when you get on the gas exiting the turn. See what happens when you have the bike leaned over, hit the apex and get on the gas with a touring tire...moreover, why is it that a GP bike's (or any race bike) lap times slow down when the tires wear out?

Ok, I'm done.... :run:
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: blindkiller on March 18, 2006, 04:12:34 PM
well dont know about you guys but i was running with a pack of bikers thursday night and was going 155mph with ease and alot of ass left to accelerate on my 05 600rr...without the passenger ive been clocked by a buddy that has a radar gun aswell as my own speedo *his reading 172 mine reading 174*  with 2000rpm left...mods include k & n air filter, two brothers carbon fiber *not the 06 model pipe* and the stock computer has been tuned to run just lean enough where its not burning oil and having back fire everytime i hit 14k rpm and letting off the gas.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Jason748 on March 18, 2006, 04:15:38 PM
why is it that a GP bike's (or any race bike) lap times slow down when the tires wear out?

Then how does Rossi usually set his fastest lap times at the end of a race?
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Fretless33 on March 18, 2006, 04:46:51 PM
Then how does Rossi usually set his fastest lap times at the end of a race?

You've seen Men in Black...he's a freakin' alien!!!!
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Seth-ZA on March 18, 2006, 05:01:49 PM
Agreed - it's a combination of superhuman ability and state-of-the-art traction control.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Jason748 on March 18, 2006, 09:35:14 PM
You've seen Men in Black...he's a freakin' alien!!!!

DING, DING..... You are correct!
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: 600err on March 18, 2006, 10:37:42 PM
My fastest time was at firebird straits and i looked down to 157 ( i dropped one tooth in the front). i had room left to go faster. but i dont think that much speed is the biggest factor anywhere near me AZ. because its jail worthy, and our tracks out here dont allow you to  top out. im usually in 2-4 gear throught the track.

Oh yea 1 more thing, tires make a big differnce, street, track, or dual compound. major differences, one of the biggest factors in riding thats just my opinion.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Ozjack on March 19, 2006, 01:09:00 AM
Ugh, let`s get one thing straight. When talking about speed(especially the maximum speed a road vehicle can do) the standard instruments are NOT accurate, and by law are allowed a full 10% margin of inaccuray. It is merely used as a guage to tell the user roughly the speed you are travelling, and as such, the higher the speed the less accurate it becomes.
The TenKate 600RR of last year(with over 140bhp) topped out at 280kp/h. A stock bike will struggle to even reach an INDICATED(innacurate) 265kph, let alone reaching a genuine(accurate) speed like that.
We are not travelling as fast as we think on road vehicles.
A good example is Suzuki`s Hayabusa-while still very fast, it has been known that some bikes doing "240kph" are in fact only doing a genuine 200kph.
In reality the stock CBR600RR will barely top 255kph(159mph).
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Zagan on March 19, 2006, 03:20:23 AM
My bike is completely stock, 2004 Australian version, my bike is currently at 15,000klms on the clock had 3-4 services froma honda dealer only, so they would have the stuff to change maps on the stock ECU without needing a power commander, I know the dealership runs a run-in map on new bike's and only change it at the 1st service.

I havn't had any problems with my bike, I've eased up on the riding of my bike due to not wanting to shell out heaps of cash on services after doing 6,000klms every 2-3 months, that's the reason for the extra services.

I noted the tires as I've done 3-4 speeds runs on the stock dunlop 208s and I've swapped over to pilot powers and I've only done 1 speed run on them and it wasn't up to what I was expecting in terms of speed.

As for your speeds etc, on my bike it just doesn't seem to be the case, at 282kph, I'd be well into the red on the dial so I wouldn't believe this number to be true.

Most of the specs I've seen in Australian, UK, and USA mags would be around the 160MPH mark which I'd believe is the correct number for any 2004 600RR.

All my runs have been on flat highway that is pretty much brand new, for about 3-4 Klms and then it goes to old highway which is bumpy, I will say at 260kph going over bumps the bike is very stable, it's not jolting around or the front poping up like some people talk about, the wheels are flat all the way.

Har Har, on the zx-6r because they can get up to that speed, they arn't stock 599cc bike they have the extra 36cc to push them out in front, that guy got clocked by a speed camera at 300-310kph and they radio'd to a under cover cop car to pull the rider over which they did as he slowed up to 100kph.

Anyway, I've riden with a zx-6r and the 600RR will keep up with them it just doesn't have to overall top speed.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: WillyRR on March 19, 2006, 05:01:51 AM
When my bike was completely stock i did 262Kph... So u guys sayin that the 600RR will do 280kph?
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Fretless33 on March 19, 2006, 10:11:44 AM
I noted the tires as I've done 3-4 speeds runs on the stock dunlop 208s and I've swapped over to pilot powers and I've only done 1 speed run on them and it wasn't up to what I was expecting in terms of speed.

What does that mean...what were you expecting?
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: hairbag on March 19, 2006, 05:36:18 PM
My 03 has clicked 167 on the meter (5% higher than actual).  That was on level ground and no wind and it was wide open for 8 miles. Yosh pipe, power commander, stock gearing, good tires (208's) and BMC filter. What I like is how this thing corners. Drag your knees!!!
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Craig04RR on March 19, 2006, 07:31:03 PM
When my bike was completely stock i did 262Kph... So u guys sayin that the 600RR will do 280kph?

NO, mine indicated 280kmhr topped out in 6th on the rev limiter, with -1f/+2r(15/45) gearing, but it  is only probably doing like  245/250kmhr.STOCK my bike showed 266kmhr with a  couple hundred rpm, left on the tach, but had nothing left to go any faster. I will tell you roll ons in 6th gear from like 160kmhr or so a buddy on his stock 05 gsxr750 couldnt gain on me,  until i hit the limiter then he went by me, he said i even pulled him a bit. Changing gears is  the best bang for ur buck performance upgrade in my opinion.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Body Check on March 20, 2006, 03:36:22 PM
NO, mine indicated 280kmhr topped out in 6th on the rev limiter, with -1f/+2r(15/45) gearing, but it  is only probably doing like  245/250kmhr.STOCK my bike showed 266kmhr with a  couple hundred rpm, left on the tach, but had nothing left to go any faster. I will tell you roll ons in 6th gear from like 160kmhr or so a buddy on his stock 05 gsxr750 couldnt gain on me,  until i hit the limiter then he went by me, he said i even pulled him a bit. Changing gears is  the best bang for ur buck performance upgrade in my opinion.

As a former GSXR750 owner I am skeptical about gearing making that much difference.  My stock 2005 GSXR 750 was a lot faster than my stock 2005 CBR600RR at every speed all the time.  The difference was not small.

The GSXR750 can lift the front wheel at speeds greater than 100MPH.  The CBR600RR has trouble lifting the front wheel in first gear.  It is a difference in torque and horsepower and it is not small.

I like the CBR600RR better for one simple reason:  The engine does not have enough punch to scare me like a 2005 GSXR 750 does.  In turns I can ride the CBR600RR hard.  I was always happy just to get the GSXR750 home in one piece.

The GSXR 750 accelerates so quickly that it confuses the human brain.  You see a car barely visible in the distance, crack the throtle and you are right on top if it in a heartbeat.  It was like time travel in a way . . . going beyond the speed of human thought.

That is why I can never accept that any stock 600cc 4 stroke can pull away from a GSXR750, even with a gearing change.  The CBR600RR needs 10 ft lbs of torque and 23 HP just to match the GSXR750. 

It is too big of a big difference.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Craig04RR on March 20, 2006, 03:50:39 PM
we were both in 6th gear, and it DID happen, I didnt pull 20 bike lengths onthe guy bnut i pulled on him a bit for a second and then it was even basically and he could not catch and pass me till i hit the limiter in 6th, i was acceleratin in 6th gear the whole time, lower gears he proabbly would have whooped me, but that didnt take place.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Zagan on March 21, 2006, 09:25:28 AM
What does that mean...what were you expecting?

lol, I guess that came out wring.

I wasn't meaning it had much to do with the tires more saying I've gotten new tires but I've only done 1 speed run with them.

Tires at that speed isn't going to mean much as your on the downward end of the map etc.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Zagan on March 21, 2006, 09:31:46 AM
The last 2 bikes arn't stock though, changing the sprockets and exhuast etc isn't going to be stock.

Anyway,  I'd expect top speed of the stock 600RR to be 260kph or 158 to 160mph, though the 2005 and 2006 should be a bit less due to Honda tuning for mid-range rather than top end.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Twebb06 on March 22, 2006, 06:07:30 PM
I did 136 mph uphill and I wasn't paying attention to the tach because I had my head buried up under the screen and I was listening to the engine.  I can tell you from the sound alone, I had plent to go.  Of ocurse my bike, tires, etc. we 1 month old!!  I alos only weigh 136 lbs.  this bike flies with such a light weight.  I plan on trying one time this summer to top it out.  I'll let you guys know what I get to.  I am not doubting the 165 mark with a stock bike.  Okay 160 mph, but I'm shooting for over an above!!  I'm not stupid, I've only had the bike over 100 mph a handfull of times. 

What is a good slip on for my bike.  I have the '05 RR.  Want something throaty, deep, mean sounding.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: scratch on March 23, 2006, 08:55:52 PM
I was at FISCO yesterday. Known for its 1.5 kilometer long front straight.
I had the misfortune of blowing my engine in the first session (see previous sentence) and was standing along the wall at the straight watching a team doing some testing. They were running a radar gun and were checking the speeds of various bikes that went by.
I watched a completely stock 03 or 04 CBR 600RR clock consistently at 210 KPH.
(130.5mph)

I wont attest to the accuracy of the gun, but that seems about right to me.

scratch
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Craig04RR on March 23, 2006, 11:04:52 PM
I was at FISCO yesterday. Known for its 1.5 kilometer long front straight.
I had the misfortune of blowing my engine in the first session (see previous sentence) and was standing along the wall at the straight watching a team doing some testing. They were running a radar gun and were checking the speeds of various bikes that went by.
I watched a completely stock 03 or 04 CBR 600RR clock consistently at 210 KPH.
(130.5mph)

I wont attest to the accuracy of the gun, but that seems about right to me.

scratch

Ok......... ummm that is fine for a straight on a race track, but 210kmhr is only 4th gear, just curious what your point is? That has nothing to do with the top speed of our bikes, it is 25-30mph short of a stock cbr's top speed. Not trying to be an ass, no offence.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: scratch on March 24, 2006, 07:37:12 AM
Well Craig, I talked to the guy on the CBR and he said the bike was indicating 260+. Does that help you at all?
I think it is likely that the gun is closer to the truth.  That doesnít mean that the bikes canít be made to go faster.
There is no way in hell I am going to break out an old physics book to try to explain drag coefficient or estimate what effect it would have on the bike.   
I thought it was interesting, that is why I mentioned it.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Fretless33 on March 24, 2006, 10:50:36 AM
The top speed record for a 600cc bike was 184 mph done by a member of this forum...

http://www.cbr600rr.com/forum/index.php/topic,9335.0.html
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Craig04RR on March 24, 2006, 03:42:04 PM
Well Craig, I talked to the guy on the CBR and he said the bike was indicating 260+. Does that help you at all?
I think it is likely that the gun is closer to the truth.  That doesnít mean that the bikes canít be made to go faster.
There is no way in hell I am going to break out an old physics book to try to explain drag coefficient or estimate what effect it would have on the bike.   
I thought it was interesting, that is why I mentioned it.


Ok now I see, but what Im asking you is was he regeared? I would think he is probably -1+3 opr something forit to be off that much, maybe im wrong but  are u sure he had no gearing? I didnt know he was indicating 260, but thats a huge gap without gearing changes.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Jeff on March 24, 2006, 05:34:15 PM
This is pretty accurate and considers the transmission as well as final gearing ratios:

http://www.cbr600rr.com/pages/reviews/moto-heaven/rrgearing.xls

With this in mind, the fastest I've EVER had a 600rr up to was 159mph.  And that was with a 30mph tail wind at Road America. 

That speed is per gearing chart, which is a hell of a lot more accurate than the speedo.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: hairbag on March 24, 2006, 06:27:32 PM
This is what I love. A young man comes into the motorcycle dealer and say "which bike can do the longest wheely" or asks "which bike is the fastest" or some dumb ass question like that. Thats the one he wants to buy! Who cares. Whats important is how well can you ride, can you improve your skills and can you stay alive! The point is a stock 600rr is more than fast enough for 90% of the people and there riding skills. Keep practicing.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Goro on March 24, 2006, 09:19:33 PM
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Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: spdklls on March 25, 2006, 08:42:42 PM
It started as a question of curiousity.
2005 CBR 600 RR
Stock everything, even original tires that came on the bike @ 10k Miles and counting.
Yes, stock sprockets, stok odometer, stock speedomter, stock tachometer, purchased new around June.

Seeing 155 MPH @ 12k RPM made me wonder, so I asked. It's not like it's my track bike. I'm just glad that

"Stupid Hurts"

didn't bite me in the ass since I was on a public highway.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: marcmcm on March 28, 2006, 04:22:58 PM
As a former GSXR750 owner I am skeptical about gearing making that much difference.  My stock 2005 GSXR 750 was a lot faster than my stock 2005 CBR600RR at every speed all the time.  The difference was not small.


My track partner has an 04 750 and I an 03 600RR, I am -1/+2 and he has stock gearing. Coming onto the back straight at Pocono I will pull on him the whole way down the straight.  I don't look at the speedo because it's covered by my laptimer.

He always catches me on the brakes though, if he doesn't totally blow the brake markers and go through the cones.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: blindkiller on March 29, 2006, 12:54:40 PM
Well then maybe some of the people im talking to are right, i must have more stuff done to my bike than i know. Because when i bought the bike from the dealer they said all the performance modifications that were done to the bike was a slip on (which isnt hardly anything) but why was i able to get clocked by a friend with a radar gun and have it match my spedo at 172mph with about 3 grand to go in 6th gear? Heh...no wonder why i keep right up with Litre bikes.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Jeff on March 29, 2006, 03:50:17 PM
why was i able to get clocked by a friend with a radar gun and have it match my spedo at 172mph with about 3 grand to go in 6th gear?

Because the radar gun was off or there was some interference.

This is physically impossible on stock gearing, stock transmission and stock tires.  Period...

When I was in the military, we could take radar guns that were $10,000 each, fully calibrated and get VERY false readings off of them by inducing certain frequencies near them (whistling would do it).
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: maskale on March 29, 2006, 10:04:00 PM
172 with 3 grand left to go,        yeah not possible.      Like Jeff said.

And if you were, why did you stop, you sould have taken it to 15 grand, you may have hit like 220 or some shit.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: marcmcm on March 30, 2006, 11:20:06 AM
You guys are silly...all you need is 88mph and 1.21 gigawatts    :thumb:
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: mainefinn on March 30, 2006, 03:31:24 PM
You guys are silly...all you need is 88mph and 1.21 gigawatts    :thumb:

Glad someone lightened this up....in general things are usually good until people start whippin em out....someone claiming 172 mph with plenty of revs to go also probably has either a sorry about your penis truck or car...too many people with too much knowledge here to try and bullshit
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Body Check on March 30, 2006, 05:53:45 PM
My track partner has an 04 750 and I an 03 600RR, I am -1/+2 and he has stock gearing. Coming onto the back straight at Pocono I will pull on him the whole way down the straight.  I don't look at the speedo because it's covered by my laptimer.

He always catches me on the brakes though, if he doesn't totally blow the brake markers and go through the cones.  :thumb:

My guess is that you and your track partner both suck at riding.   Your observations do nothing to establish your CBR600RR as faster than a GSXR750. 

I have a lot of seat time on both machines.  You do not.  The GSXR750 is faster in a straight line, but does not inspire confidence in turns.  The CBR600RR has mediocre acceleration and amazing handling.  I like the CBR600RR, but it is so slow I can beat it on my favorite rides.  The GSXR 750 requires respect.  Face it, if you can pull on a GSXR750 in the straights it is because the other guy can't ride his bike.

I think your riding partner is afraid of his bike.  He damn well should be.  A GSXR 750 is not a toy.  The CBR600RR is 100% a toy.  That is what makes the CBR600RR a better bike.  It is actually fun to ride.

Go to a drag strip and break the 10.30 second mark in the 1/4 mile.   Then post the time slip. 

Otherwise, forget about your CBR600RR being faster than a GSXR750.  It is a invalid claim and only a complete idiot would try to defend it.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: marcmcm on March 30, 2006, 09:24:24 PM
Yeah I have no seat time on a 600RR...I've only had one since a month after they came out and then bought another one a year after that.  And yeah my friend is so afraid of his 750 considering he rides an R1 on the street and the 750 on the track and that he's been riding for over 10 years.  I never said it was faster altogether.  I only said that a regeared 600RR will accelerate faster than a bone stock GSXR-750.  I have no interest in drag racing since that's not what a 600RR was made for.  If I wanted to drag race I'd go be a squid and get a stetched 'Busa.


Toolshed....
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Body Check on March 30, 2006, 11:45:53 PM
  I only said that a regeared 600RR will accelerate faster than a bone stock GSXR-750. 

Toolshed....

BULLSHIT!   

Your re-geared 600RR is no match for a stock GSXR 750 in acceleration or top speed.  This post was about top speed.  Your regeared 600RR cannnot match a stock GSXR 750 for top speed.  Enough already.

But no.  You have to use bitch reasoning saying in one post that your bike can out accelerate another bike and in another post you tell us it is not for drag racing.  That was really lame.  You should be ashamed.

Be a man and accept the truth.  You got lucky and beat your friend.  He either picked a bad line or chose the wrong gear exiting a turn on the track.  The fact is that your single claimed experience proves nothing. 
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Jeff on March 31, 2006, 10:46:22 AM
Look ladies. put your peckers back in your shorts and lighten up.  Body check, back off an ounce and accept someone else's perspective as being perhaps different from yours. 

Can a CBR600RR beat a GSXR-750?  If you'd like, I'll post my results with the year long battle between me and Deni DeBuhr, me on my 05 CBR600RR and him on first his 03 GSXR-750 and then on his 05 GSXR-750.  We were dead nuts even.  We traded places every lap.

Now, will his bike beat mine on the dyno?  You bet.  Last year  I was pulling like 112 at the rear wheel and he was +120 (I don't know what it was, but he easily had HP on me).  The funny thing is that on the straights, he would not gap me.  I couldn't pass him, but he wouldn't gap me and had a BITCH of a time catching me.

Is this because he sucks as a racer?  No, I'd say we're very evenly matched.  I believe my advantage was in comfort and setup.  I don't know that I'd consider an 05/06 CBR600RR to have mediocre accelleration.  The 03/04? yes, that I will concede. But the 05/06 will hang with any other 600 out there.

The rider and setup are the largest variables...

But hey, what do I know...
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: BlackNumberOne on March 31, 2006, 10:59:27 AM
DANG! i thought this was a kinder gentler place.....
I believe that if the 600rr was in the meat of its power and the gsxr wasn't on the pipe, the 600 would pull away. Dyno and Acceleration.... won't be close
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Fretless33 on March 31, 2006, 11:05:21 AM
I don't know that I'd consider an 05/06 CBR600RR to have mediocre accelleration.  The 03/04? yes, that I will concede.

Heeeeeeyyyyy.....watch it buddy!!! :P  I think in the case of my '03 it's the rider with mediocre acceleration  :jerkoff:
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Jeff on March 31, 2006, 03:53:23 PM
point is, there are a thousand variables.

On paper, Pound for pound, the GSXR-750 will beat the CBR600RR.  This is obvious.  150CC's more is pretty danged helpful.

HOWEVER, when you put rider's on top of these 2 bikes, anything can happen.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: hairbag on April 01, 2006, 10:23:59 AM
What was you question?
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Zagan on April 02, 2006, 08:05:20 AM
heh, heh :D

I think about it like this.

Most bikes will probably keep up with each other in a straight line, it's purely the overall top speed that says who wins.

My bike will stay with a 636, but it won't keep up once it's beyond the sweet spot on the map, much like what jeff said really.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Campe23 on March 19, 2009, 08:11:13 PM
This post has a lot of great information on it.  I have an 06 and was wondering if it was limited to a speed.  On two different occasions I had it to 163 mph on the speedo, but had more rpm to go.  I didn't know if that was all the engine had, if it was governed, or it probably was just the right time for me to slow down.  I just thought it was weird that it was 163 on both occasions. 
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: bigdcbr600 on March 19, 2009, 10:48:27 PM
i have seen 157...........while i passed a cop...oops! 8)
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Jeff on March 20, 2009, 02:47:43 PM
This post has a lot of great information on it.  I have an 06 and was wondering if it was limited to a speed.  On two different occasions I had it to 163 mph on the speedo, but had more rpm to go.  I didn't know if that was all the engine had, if it was governed, or it probably was just the right time for me to slow down.  I just thought it was weird that it was 163 on both occasions. 

Read back through the thread.  It's called wind resistance...
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: ROBERT on March 21, 2009, 03:47:10 AM
ive also hit 163 with more rpm to go...
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: nut on March 21, 2009, 05:29:57 PM
i had my 09 up to 156mph at about 13000, really dont feel the need to go that fast again anytime soon though
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: DeadlyRaceReplica on March 21, 2009, 10:42:21 PM
way to fast for public roads
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: nut on March 21, 2009, 10:58:32 PM
way to fast for public roads
i agree, the only justification i have is it was a brand new 4 lane highway connecting 2 middle of nowhere cities with 0 traffic, no crossroads and 5 solid miles of smooth straight away
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: nut on June 04, 2009, 06:01:57 AM
i was going down hwy4 in okla last night (no where autobahn) and hit 169mph indicated, that was going down a slight hill no wind, i let off before i could hit 170, i think if conditions were right it would bounce off 170 for a second or 2.... flame on
(http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b363/offroader786/hwy4.jpg)
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Hi-Side on June 04, 2009, 10:40:36 AM
There is way more wind resistance in this thread than a bike will experience at any speed...
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: nut on June 04, 2009, 12:16:08 PM
keep in mind i weigh 135lbs soaking wet, and it was going down a slight grade towards the river.... if i could get one of those sweet action cameras mounted id take a picture  8)
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Jeff on June 04, 2009, 02:18:16 PM
Nut, verify your speed via GPS or radar.  Indicated is, well, indicated.  It's not "actual"..
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: nut on June 04, 2009, 09:32:35 PM
Nut, verify your speed via GPS or radar.  Indicated is, well, indicated.  It's not "actual"..
totally agree its not actual thats why i said indicated in my post, ill mount up my magellan and see how fast she says i was going..... really just seeing my speedo say that made me dribble in my pants. i know with the offset i was probably doing less than 160  ???
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: icon skull on June 05, 2009, 01:29:44 AM
i go 999 miles a second
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: nut on June 05, 2009, 02:01:32 AM
i go 999 miles a second
pfffft my razor scooter does 1000 mps
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Campe23 on June 19, 2009, 11:31:49 AM
Get that magellan out and tell us what's up. 
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: UKTURFROCKS on June 19, 2009, 02:25:28 PM
I agree way to fast for public roads.  Ive been 140's on the street and regreted doing it. Ill never hit that agian. 
After gearing I went to nashville in the rain and toped teh bike out in the straight and it was a rush but i wasnt going top speed due to the ratio I was running.  you will learn really quick when you get busted for going that fast on the street. Jail time is a must at those speeds so slow it down and get the bike on the twisties where it belongs.
















squids
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: nut on June 19, 2009, 07:45:52 PM
I agree way to fast for public roads.  Ive been 140's on the street and regreted doing it. Ill never hit that agian. 
After gearing I went to nashville in the rain and toped teh bike out in the straight and it was a rush but i wasnt going top speed due to the ratio I was running.  you will learn really quick when you get busted for going that fast on the street. Jail time is a must at those speeds so slow it down and get the bike on the twisties where it belongs.
















squids

id kill for one twistie road in oklahoma
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: UKTURFROCKS on June 20, 2009, 12:57:07 AM
come out to ky and it will blow your mind then squidly
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: nut on June 20, 2009, 02:00:55 AM
come out to ky and it will blow your mind then squidly
as a matter of fact i may in the next year or so, ive got alot of friends sliding around in KY  :P
dudes from my current job and from the nav
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: Low Light on June 20, 2009, 04:30:58 PM
I bet you got a lot of friends sliding around in KY   :P :P :P :P
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: nut on June 20, 2009, 10:02:16 PM
that was the best kentucky (KY) joke ive ever came up with hahaha
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: beer on June 20, 2009, 11:57:52 PM
Were you a sea man?       :jerkoff:
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: UKTURFROCKS on June 21, 2009, 12:16:14 AM
now that was a joke.  Good one beer
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: nut on June 21, 2009, 01:12:56 PM
no, but for the joke yes.
i was in aviation, i was an airman
in the navy there are seaman, airman, fireman, constructionman
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: bigdcbr600 on June 21, 2009, 01:43:59 PM
no, but for the joke yes.
i was in aviation, i was an airman
in the navy there are seaman, airman, fireman, constructionman
don't forget those damn machinists
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: nut on June 21, 2009, 04:03:07 PM
each rate is divided into several other rates, i think a machinist is a seaman, i was an air traffic controller (AC) thats airman, a seabee is a constructionman etc.
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: UKTURFROCKS on June 21, 2009, 08:35:24 PM
are you the guy in top gun that flags the planes out on a big boat. 
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: nut on June 21, 2009, 09:09:03 PM
are you the guy in top gun that flags the planes out on a big boat. 
no thats an ABH (aviation boastwains mate handler) i was in a tower at an airport or down in the radar room coaching pilots, pilots are like suzuki riders and air traffic controllers have to tell them they are idiots and where to go and how to fly
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: ABE75 on June 21, 2009, 09:21:08 PM
There is way more wind resistance in this thread than a bike will experience at any speed...
:P
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: UKTURFROCKS on June 21, 2009, 10:05:37 PM
no thats an ABH (aviation boastwains mate handler) i was in a tower at an airport or down in the radar room coaching pilots, pilots are like suzuki riders and air traffic controllers have to tell them they are idiots and where to go and how to fly

I Love this.  Like suzuki riders the best of the best right there
Title: Re: Top Speed for a CBR600RR Stock ?
Post by: nut on June 21, 2009, 10:09:15 PM
omg! pilots are so dumb its unreal... i dont feel like getting into it but if there werent atc's, airplane crash rates would make team suzuki look flawless haha