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GP shift on the RR
« on: April 21, 2003, 12:54:47 AM »
I thought i seen one picture of GP shifting on a 2wf's daytona tire test session a few months ago when they showed some of the new RR's on the track. I was at the dealer trying to figure out how to do it. Does anyone have an idea?
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Re:GP shift on the RR
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2003, 06:17:08 AM »
If you look in the gallery, you will see that Miguel and Kurtis both have normal shifting.  Also, the tech pic from that day shows normal shifting.

However, looking close up at the bike, I believe that GP shifting won't be all that hard.  There are two options with it.

1,  Try to flip the arm to the other side.  This will definitely involve moving the idle control screw.  No biggie.  However, there are hoses from the water pump which may be in the way.  I haven't tried it yet, but I think it'll work...

2,  Have the shifter linkage welded to the OTHER side of the pivot point on the shifter arm.  If you move the linkage behind the pivot point instead of in front, it'll change the direction of the throw for the transmission.  However, it'll also change the length of the linkage and throw, so it'd have to be measured out pretty carefully.

Either which way, I have to have GP shifting...  I haven't ridden normal shifting in the last 4 years, and don't care to start now...  Especially having one bike with GP and one without....
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Re:GP shift on the RR
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2003, 01:08:30 AM »
At the Fontana races, we looked at about all of the RRs.  Some had GP shift setups on them.

It was kind of obvious because the shift bars/levers were in a completely different configuration.  If you took a picture of them close up it would look like a different bike.

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Re:GP shift on the RR
« Reply #3 on: May 15, 2003, 08:32:58 PM »
I'm curious to know if any riders have successfully set up GP shifting on the RR.

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Re:GP shift on the RR
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2003, 03:36:39 PM »
Miguel's and Kurtis's do have GP shifting in the pictures posted in the Gallery.  Look at the pivot point and where the linkage connects too. On the stock bike, the pivot is at the end, with the linkage connecting inbetween the pivot and the shifter.  On the HRC bikes, the linkage is at the end with the pivot inbetween it and the shifter thus making it GP.

See HRC Setup - GP Shift:


See Stock setup - Standard Shift:


From what I hear, the HRC linkage doesn't work too well and they aren't happy with it.  At Daytona, Kurtis's bike had a unique shift lever that bypassed all the stuff down low and went straight to the shift shaft at an angle.  Apparently this worked much better and they will be moving to that setup later on.

See Pic of Kurtis GP linkage:


I am waiting for the Sato rearsets to be available shortly through Dan Kyle www.kyleusa.com.  They come in either standard or reverse patters and are very nice.  I have a set of them on my RC51 racebike and love them.

Sato Racing Rearset Link:http://www.satoracing.com/rearsetscbr600rr.htm

Pics standard shift:


GP Shift Pics:


Moriwaki also has GP shift available on their rearsets available through Big Valley Honda http://www.bigvalleyhonda.com/racing/CBR600RR_03.html

Moriwaki Rearsets for 600RR:


Hope that helps some of you out!  8)

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Re:GP shift on the RR
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2003, 07:51:50 PM »
Hey Guys -
I am new to the board and have been speaking with Jeff over the past few days to become a board sponsor which is now the case. That said, if anyone is interested in the Moriwaki rearsets in either regular or GP shift pattern let me know and I will get them for you at $419.00
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Re:GP shift on the RR
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2003, 11:07:50 AM »
Ok so now that I've seen a couple different rearsets for the RR where can I get the Moriwaki? I will be needing it pretty soon. Not that interested in the GP style though. Definately would need to be polished. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re:GP shift on the RR
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2003, 12:53:04 AM »
I have seen some before I knew I was getting a honda. I find out and post it.
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Re:GP shift on the RR
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2003, 10:18:34 AM »
My CFM Woodcraft rearsets should be in today.  I am getting one of their first sets :-)

You'll see the review in a few days...
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Re:GP shift on the RR
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2003, 03:40:59 PM »
jeff are those gp or standard?
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Re:GP shift on the RR
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2003, 12:38:43 PM »
    So has anyone found anything that will just change the linkage to reverse shifting without having to purchase rearsets as well?  I'm in the market for a 600rr, but need reverse pattern, but don't need rearsets (don't want to spend that kind of cash).

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Re:GP shift on the RR
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2003, 05:41:51 PM »
check the product reviews for the review on my CFM rearsets:
http://www.cbr600rr.com/pages/reviews

As for modifying the stock setup, you'd have to pull the water pump hose out of the way, and then likely use a shorter shift arm from the shaft.  Kawasaki makes a smaller arm.
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Re:GP shift on the RR
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2003, 12:57:28 PM »
yea i dont think theres any way to convert the stock rearsets to gp >:(
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Re:GP shift on the RR
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2003, 07:43:07 PM »
sorry, i'm really new at this.....what exactly do the gp rearsets do???  i'm really confused....... ???

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Re:GP shift on the RR
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2003, 10:16:26 PM »
sorry, i'm really new at this.....what exactly do the gp rearsets do???  i'm really confused....... ???

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So to straighten you out first, the rearset isn't "gp".  All a rearset is, is the foot bracket & peg.  Race rear-sets are higher up, further back and generally solid so they don't fold up like stock pegs.

GP refers to the shift pattern.  Stock is 1 down, 5 up.  GP is just the opposite.  1 up, 5 down.  GP shifting is used commonly in racing because the body has so much more force pushing the pedal down versus pulling it up, and there are many times when you have to shift with the bike tipped into a corner.  

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