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"Backing it in"...
« on: October 01, 2004, 02:47:16 AM »
Didn't run a search, and with all the super squids around, I wouldn't be suprised if someone has already asked.  I'm asking not because I feel I'm ready to start sliding around my rear tire, but just because I got to thinking about it at my last track day, and got curious.  

There were a bunch of stunna-tools out at the track riding around locking up their rear tires before turns >:( ??? ...and it got me thinking about it...  

What exactly happens when racers slide their rear tire around?  Is it just really hard downshifts and you're hard enough on your front breaks to get preasure off your back tire so that it is able to slide around more freely?  Any of you track-stars wanna take a shot at explaining it to me?

Again...not ready to try it, but I'm curious as to what the people who are doing it are doing.
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Re:"Backing it in"...
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2004, 03:43:11 AM »
What exactly happens when racers slide their rear tire around?  Is it just really hard downshifts and you're hard enough on your front breaks to get preasure off your back tire so that it is able to slide around more freely?  Any of you track-stars wanna take a shot at explaining it to me?

Again...not ready to try it, but I'm curious as to what the people who are doing it are doing.

Thats about right, plus add a bit of back brake and it will swing out for ya.

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Re:"Backing it in"...
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2004, 09:01:13 AM »
Coming in, mine slides around a bit while downshifting and hard on the brakes.

Going out, it'll slide on the gas if I want it to.  I don't typically "try" to slide the bike, but will get on the gas at times when I know it can break loose.  Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't...

Wanna learn a LOT about sliding, the effects of gas/brake/turning/shifting?  Get in the dirt or better yet, on the ice...
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Re:"Backing it in"...
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2004, 12:33:39 PM »
Yeah, I've messed around on my PB out in the rain sliding the back tire around, but when I do that I usually just lock up the rear, it's not powerful enough to get on the gas and slide the sucker.  I'm opting for a 50 or Zuma for a pit bike as soon as I can spring for it, but  suspension comes way first.

Speaking of rain...its's raining...which means it's PB time
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Re:"Backing it in"...
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2004, 02:03:46 PM »
like jeff said...wanna learn a lot about sliding, get in the dirt/mud/snow etc on a dirtbike.....you will fall, a lot, but its fun.

btw....meddiepie, 2 questions

what kind of track experience do you have and what the hell does meddiepie mean?

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Re:"Backing it in"...
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2004, 02:16:13 PM »
Haha, I don't have a lot of track experience...I've only been riding track since July and I've rode a few times at BIR, and I've run a small technical track by my house almost every weekend since July 11th.  And I'm going to MAM next weekend.  I don't have a lot of experience, but I've gotten pretty fast in a short ammount of time from working on my lines and form, and bugging the shit out of the control riders.  And I'm 19...so I have age workin' for me  8)

MeddiePie is just a nick name, my last name's Medvec, and one day one of my friends just started calling me MeddiePie99...and then the hockey team started calling me Meddie.  But MeddiePie99 is my AIM SN...so I go by MeddiePie online
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Re:"Backing it in"...
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2004, 02:19:37 PM »
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Re:"Backing it in"...
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2004, 02:28:27 PM »
Weird how it put 3 MeddiePie's in a row vertically like that, huh...
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Re:"Backing it in"...
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2004, 02:29:02 PM »
i didnt notice that but lol

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Re:"Backing it in"...
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2004, 07:23:06 PM »
...... And I'm going to MAM next weekend.  ......

Cool, see you there!  I'll be on my SV instead of the RR though.......  It's a fun track, no elevation changes but good technical layout.  I ride there pretty much every Thursday afternoon in the local track club.  8)
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Re:"Backing it in"...
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2004, 01:01:52 AM »


K, I'm krunk, so I hope that works.

Come look for me, I'll be "camping" at the track.  I think we'll have a banner that says "welcome sportbikes.ws" or something like that (can't exactly remember what it says.  But come see me, and I'll be glad/more than happy to chill with you and chase around with you...assuming I can keep up
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Re:"Backing it in"...
« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2004, 01:04:58 AM »
Cool, see you there!  I'll be on my SV instead of the RR though.......  It's a fun track, no elevation changes but good technical layout.  I ride there pretty much every Thursday afternoon in the local track club.  8)

Oh, and you haven't ridden technical if you haven't been at DCTC.  But since you ride there so much, can I chase you around/ follow your lines?  I expect to turn pretty good numbers there, I'll be renting a lap timer
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Re:"Backing it in"...
« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2004, 05:37:05 PM »
Oh, and you haven't ridden technical if you haven't been at DCTC.  But since you ride there so much, can I chase you around/ follow your lines?  I expect to turn pretty good numbers there, I'll be renting a lap timer

Sure, depending upon how fast you are you can either follow me or one of my buddies who are faster.  I run about 1:50 on my SV on street tires (208's), and will be on Pilot Race's for the first time this week so I hope to pick up a second or two.  I have a couple friends who are going to be there that run in the low 1:4x's too who can show you good lines.  If you look at the track map (http://www.midamericamotorplex.com/code/track_main.asp) , turn 3 and turn 14 are the tricky ones.  I'll be on my white SV with black/red stripes (http://www.zr-7.com/SV/svdecal.jpg).  It'll be parked close to my black (cough..... cough..... mercedes.... cough...) SUV.
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Re:"Backing it in"...
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2004, 05:52:36 PM »
It'll be parked close to my black (cough..... cough..... mercedes.... cough...) SUV.

show off  :)

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Re:"Backing it in"...
« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2004, 09:54:38 PM »
show off  :)

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all i have to say is  :-[
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Yea, but I wear cheap socks so it all balances out......  8)
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