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New Rider, Need answers!!!
« on: January 26, 2012, 12:42:39 AM »
Hey everybody!

I'm seriously considering getting a sportbike, either a Ninja 250R or a CBR600RR. Is it absolutely necessary to start with a 250 or is it safe to go straight to a 600 (my daily driver is an RX-8 which I've taught myself how to drive manual on and also heel-toe shift if that gives you an idea of my skill level with cars at least)? Keep in mind I haven't even gotten my motorcycle license as of yet and have no experience on bikes at all. But I WILL without a doubt take the safety and instruction courses to learn how to ride. But I want to know, should I get a CBR or a GSX-R or something else? Pros and cons of each please! And also what kind of gear should I get? Tell me everything I need to know! All answers will be appreciated!

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Re: New Rider, Need answers!!!
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2012, 01:08:54 AM »
if you go back and fill out the questionnaire ill answer all your questions
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Re: New Rider, Need answers!!!
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2012, 01:28:38 AM »
1.  Boxers/Briefs/Thong/Grannies/Commando: Boxers
2.  Years riding: 0
3.  Biggest mistake in life you've ever made: Getting addicted to Pokemon
4.  Other bikes owned: Mongoose 21 speed 1/2 hp?
5.  Is synthetic oil better than dino oil? Synthetic Tiger's blood
6.  When was the last time you lubed your chain? seeing as i dont have a bike, no
7.  87 or 91 octane? 93 or tiger's blood
8.  Number of crashes? 1 (stupid high school girl in her jeep backed into me)
9.  Where is the bank angle sensor located and what does it do? Behind the headlight housing and according to google, tells the computers if the bike is upright and allows the bike to start
10. Is a cush drive significant to you? Sounds fairly significant
11. Favorite movie:The Lion King
12. When was the last time you were kicked in the groin? 6th grade
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Re: New Rider, Need answers!!!
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2012, 02:20:48 AM »
alright, now to answer your questions....1 to get a 250r or 600rr.... this is a big conversation already, you'll find many threads talked back and forth on this to death... i personally started on a 600rr... im not dead yet.... but if i had the opportunity to start on a 250..i would have. i have two friends that wanted to ride and i got them to get 250s first and they do pretty damn good on those and are ready to move up... but...as long as you have the respect for the bike and the maturity to control yourself from being stupid....you'll be fine with a 600rr....2 expert car shifter guy.....means noob motorcycle shifter guy....lol its like sayin you can fly a plane so i have an understanding of trains... lol sorry but it is what it is....3 safety course and instructional course will help immensely. so good on you for wanting to take those...4..i cant really tell you what bikes are better and what bikes suck...i mean..this is a cbr forum....so by default im going to tell you honda rules everything else but Italian bikes suck! lol you wanna be just like everyone else go get a gsxr you wanna be gay go get a kawi ninja, you want to look like you race get a yamaha, you want to look like you know what the hell your doin....get a honda...lol you wanna show off money get a duc.  that was a joke... but honestly a honda is pretty forgiving and pretty comfy. gxsr is well... i dunno never had one...but i sat on one before and they have a comfy seat... lol r6 is very aggressive and if your commuting you might not like that... or maybe you will who knows...ninjas are good i guess too i road on one for the safety instructional course and it was sweet.  hope this helps somewhat or at least got a kick out of it
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Re: New Rider, Need answers!!!
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2012, 03:06:12 AM »
That does help a bit. Everything I've read has said just go straight to the 600 since the 250 is like a Geo Metro by comparison. But I just don't like the Ninja ZX-6Rs, the R6s are track bikes converted to the street, and Gixxers are sorta cliches so I want something more original and not ridiculously expensive, both up front and maintenance (glares at Ducatti and Aprilia). Plus the CBR still has 104 ponies and only weighs 425 pounds. And everything I've read has said that they are super easy to ride, super reliable, you can ride them for hours and not feel like you just rode a motorcycle for hours, and they are great for the track, which I fully intend to do once I've become VERY comfortable with the bike (probably a year or so of owning it). So I've really already made up my mind, I just wanted to hear what current owners think of their RRs.

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Re: New Rider, Need answers!!!
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2012, 06:10:30 AM »
...I just wanted to hear what current owners think of their RRs.
For some reason, anyone who has ever ridden a CBR600RR, has had nothing but good things to say. It may or may not be the best 600 ever made, those judgments are made by more experienced men and woman than me, but my bike has pulled me through several crazy situations and has done things my Ninja250 never could do.
You will not put a foot wrong going with the CBR600RR. It will be a great bike to learn on, and it will last you well into the more experienced levels of riding; and perform there.
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Re: New Rider, Need answers!!!
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2012, 04:48:49 PM »
Ok, so the next thing would be gear and insurance. How much gear, what type, what brand, pricing, the whole shibang! And which insurance company should I get my bike insurance from?

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Re: New Rider, Need answers!!!
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2012, 04:51:21 PM »
Whichever is cheapest LOL

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Re: New Rider, Need answers!!!
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2012, 06:06:21 PM »
you get what you pay for usually with gear....so dont skimp. like this guy right above me lol insurance, pick one honestly...i have foremost people use all state triple A  and i think farmers has it too
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Re: New Rider, Need answers!!!
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2012, 07:02:34 PM »
I've seen helmets and jackets go from 70-300 and gloves from 30-120. So a nice medium between the two extremes is a safe bet? And since I intend to race the bike (on track.... mostly.....  8)) Should I go ahead and get boots and pants or a full suit as well? Or only once I am ready to race?

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Re: New Rider, Need answers!!!
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2012, 07:20:05 PM »
yessir to the first part....and wait till your ready to actually hit the track before you start buying gear for it...otherwise strollin around town in full leathers gets a lil cumbersome
 
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Re: New Rider, Need answers!!!
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2012, 07:25:51 PM »
In my opinion, drop as much as you possibly can on a helmet and a back protector. The rest of your body will heal if you crash, the grey matter in your spine and brain, does not. Buy a shitty pair of gloves, who cares. Buy a shitty helmet and you'll wind up dead or a vegetable. How about the price of wheel chairs? Back protectors are cheaper, you know that, right? To give you an idea, I spent $550 on my helmet, and another $160 on a back protector. That landed me two of the highest rated pieces of safety gear and in my opinion it's money well spent.
Tips for getting other gear: kevlar stitching and panel reinforcement is nice in gloves, jackets, and pants. It's yellow, can't miss it. It'll look like yellow thread on the glove, and yellow fabric panels on the inside if it's reinforced. Kevlar is amazing in slides. Try to get a lid that also has it.
Get internally stitched panels (leather or textile, doesn't matter) internal stitching allows for you to slide on a panel without wearing through the stitching before the panel does. If it's externally stitched it's just going to fly apart as soon as you start sliding because you're sliding on exposed seams of thread. That doesn't last very long (few meters).
Fit fit fit fit. You have to be comfortable otherwise you will be distracted while riding.
Jacket sleeves should end at your wrist bone IN THE RIDING POSITION. Sport jacket hems (the base of the jacket), should end between your belt and belly button UNLESS you are buying a touring jacket. This is to prevent an excess of material bunching up at your waist while riding, increasing your comfort level.
If you're going leather, make sure you buy it snug because it will relax and fill out. Don't go too snug or you won't get a hoody and a back protector underneath it.
If you're buying textile do the opposite, size it to fit right out of the box because it will never change shape.
When buying gloves, check the span of leather/textile between your index finger and your thumb. Too little material here restricts your ability to reach your levers. Buy gloves snug, they stretch some of the most out of all types of gear. Make sure that when they are snug you can reach your levers easily. Sit on a bike, put pressure on your hands as if you were riding (it makes your hands expand), then check if you can get to the levers easily.
Pants that have armour will seem like the armour is misplaced while you are standing up. This is because your leg length actually increases when you get into the riding position, so the armour will sit low while you are standing up, and will come up your leg once you get on the bike. Unless you buy piece of shit pants, the armour can be adjusted further. If your inseam is normally 31 inches, add 2 or 3 inches for riding pants.
Boots should be as armoured as you can take without becoming a total race boot, you won't need that on the street. Plus the time to get in and out of them means you will never use them. Buy an armoured street boot. Sidi Vertigo, Dainese Torque Pro/Pannier/Race, etc. Your toes should be near the end, they will not expand like a shoe, but rather mould and reshape from heat and moisture. Your heel should be snug, but not rubbing excessively. Your heal should not lift too much when you step. it should be low profile so you can reach the shift ever easily. Always fit the left boot rather than the right. Sometimes there is variance in feet and hands, always fit your left boot better than your right. All you do with your right is stomp occasionally on a brake lever, don't need a good fit for that. Shifting however you do that constantly and need to get it right.
That's about it off the top of my head. If you have more questions, ask away.
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Re: New Rider, Need answers!!!
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2012, 09:14:51 PM »
Mind has been blown! Anything about riding techniques or anything else?

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Re: New Rider, Need answers!!!
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2012, 10:49:19 PM »
Mind has been blown! Anything about riding techniques or anything else?
Take it easy and build your confidence slowly. There's no need to rush. Take as much training as you can afford, there is ALWAYS something you can learn or practice to get better at. Take your time and enjoy the ride :)
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Re: New Rider, Need answers!!!
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2012, 11:01:28 PM »
Thanks!