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Wrench87

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Re: Paintjob inspired by 2012 HRC Fireblade
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2012, 01:24:03 PM »
Thank you!! For saying such nice thing, i'll treat you a sumptuous meal!! Anywhere you want... 😉

Too bad she and I cook for eachother on a regular basis. ::) :D
Me either, I have something like 300mm rotors and it still doesn't stop fast enough for me. But I don't have radial mounted brakes, and mine are the cheapy Nissin's that come stock. Decent for the street but they chatter and take a lot of time to heat up. Would like something with more initial bite personally. We'll see how the year goes, I may upgrade to 320mm Brembos.
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Re: Paintjob inspired by 2012 HRC Fireblade
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2012, 12:54:59 AM »
Come to think about it, i think you make sense.. I've seen racers brakes caught fire during race and i dont think we would want it to happen to us.. But i doubt if the brakes are cold, it would work perfectly either...

The point in larger rotors is 2 reason: 1) more braking surface which allows for larger pads 2)more braking surface is more surface for heat to escape, allowing your brakes to run cooler.


The only time heat is beneficial for brakes is in some instances when you have special pads/rotors that needed to be "burned" in. They have to go through a certain amount of heat cycles, being heated and cooled gradually, each time raising the temperature to help bed the brakes before you will get the full stopping power of out the brakes. I don't know if bikes have any pads/rotors that require to be "bedded" in, but a lot of aftermarket rotors for street cars do require a session for them to be ready to perform "optimally".

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Re: Paintjob inspired by 2012 HRC Fireblade
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2012, 02:12:04 AM »
The point in larger rotors is 2 reason: 1) more braking surface which allows for larger pads 2)more braking surface is more surface for heat to escape, allowing your brakes to run cooler.


The only time heat is beneficial for brakes is in some instances when you have special pads/rotors that needed to be "burned" in. They have to go through a certain amount of heat cycles, being heated and cooled gradually, each time raising the temperature to help bed the brakes before you will get the full stopping power of out the brakes. I don't know if bikes have any pads/rotors that require to be "bedded" in, but a lot of aftermarket rotors for street cars do require a session for them to be ready to perform "optimally".
Well I'm not sure what my bike is doing then. I get a LOT of chatter when braking hard just starting out on a ride. But if I hold the lever down just enough to apply some brake pressure and heat the pads and rotors, I don't get chatter anymore. Chatter as in the front end feels like it's shaking up and down, like a series of closely spaced bumps.
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Re: Paintjob inspired by 2012 HRC Fireblade
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2012, 02:51:36 AM »
Well I'm not sure what my bike is doing then. I get a LOT of chatter when braking hard just starting out on a ride. But if I hold the lever down just enough to apply some brake pressure and heat the pads and rotors, I don't get chatter anymore. Chatter as in the front end feels like it's shaking up and down, like a series of closely spaced bumps.
i have felt those shaking up and down feeling before..
What actually happen is that the brake disc got a bit bent due to a fall i suffer... No matter how slight the bent may be, it will be felt.
My mechanics advice me to change the disc, which i did and its fine now..
Maybe you are suffering my same fate?

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Re: Paintjob inspired by 2012 HRC Fireblade
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2012, 04:37:41 AM »
Too bad she and I cook for eachother on a regular basis. ::) :D

Oh theres a husband and wife in this forum?! Oh wow! Then i'll treat the both of you to a sumptuous meal!! I will never let my girlfriend ride a bike! Its not that im a controlling boyfriend, but she seems to be aiming for each and every trees when riding a bicycle!!

Leave your credit card at home for the bike show, then, bro! :P

Yes yes! Or you will end up buying both the brembo and dymag!! Haha.. And a beating from your wife...

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Re: Paintjob inspired by 2012 HRC Fireblade
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2012, 01:26:54 PM »
Well I'm not sure what my bike is doing then. I get a LOT of chatter when braking hard just starting out on a ride. But if I hold the lever down just enough to apply some brake pressure and heat the pads and rotors, I don't get chatter anymore. Chatter as in the front end feels like it's shaking up and down, like a series of closely spaced bumps.

Well, I would guess that you have warped your rotor. Also, you could have a stuck slide in your caliper as well, not allowing one of your pads to fully disengague. Just a quick little write up of what I would do in your situation. Would take about an hour or so if I was just messing around, 30 min if you are actually working.

1) Buy 2 cans of brake clean, and use half of first can to clean caliper while still on bike
2) Pull caliper and remove pads
3) CLEAN caliper
4) check pads for even wear, then resurface pads (when i say resurface, easiest way is put pad surface face down on to concrete, and lightly push down and them and move in a circular motion about 7-10 rotations. you will see the discoloration left on the concrete. now your pads will have a "fresh" stopping surface)
5) apply very small amount of disc brake quiet to BACK of pads (NOT the rotor side, caliper side), set pads aside
6) make sure caliper is very very clean.
7) upon reassembly, apply never-seize/anti-seize/whatever you want to call it, people have a lot of different names for the stuff, (silver like coating to prevent corrosion) to bolts that secure the pads. DO NOT use too much, just enough to put a nice coating to keep everything moving easy. (a little goes a long way if you've never used it before)
8)after you get it put back together, get some pressure on the pad, then bleed the brake to make sure you don't have any air in the lines (make sure you use at least dot 4 fluid)

then go out and ride it and see if it made it go away, if not, you could have warped your rotor. if you get to that point, i would call your local shop of choice and ask them if they can turn a brake rotor, or at least check them for run out/warpadge (unless you pull it off and it's REALLY obvious). if someone can, pull the brakes back off and TIE THEM UP, DON'T LET THEM HANG ON YOUR BRAKE LINES!, then pull the rotor.

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Re: Paintjob inspired by 2012 HRC Fireblade
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2012, 03:37:18 PM »
K I doubt it's a warped rotor because the problem goes away, but I'll check the calipers this spring.
Keith, I'm going to the show this afternoon. I'm not sure if I will buy anything. The show usually has some cool stuff, but unless it's a halo light kit or angel eyes, probably won't by it. That being said, I will be avoiding the 1199 like the plague. Because that I WILL buy.
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Re: Paintjob inspired by 2012 HRC Fireblade
« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2012, 10:00:54 PM »
Keith, I'm going to the show this afternoon. I'm not sure if I will buy anything. The show usually has some cool stuff, but unless it's a halo light kit or angel eyes, probably won't by it. That being said, I will be avoiding the 1199 like the plague. Because that I WILL buy.

Mmmmmm.....Angel eyes. I want them so bad. Bringing my big boy camera this time so hopefully I get some real good shots! Especially of that 1199 ;-)

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Re: Paintjob inspired by 2012 HRC Fireblade
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2012, 12:27:45 AM »
There was EFF all to buy at the show today. All I saw was a lot of last years stuff recycled, and certainly no cool accessories like Angel Eyes. Guess we have to keep buying from the States for stuff like that.
That Ducati stole the show. There is nothing out on the market that touches it. Oh wait, the MV F4RR in Flat White.... oh god that was sexy...
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