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leusent

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Foot position
« on: August 21, 2011, 10:26:47 AM »
When I'm on the track, here is how my foot is usually positioned (peg is under the ball of my foot):

Here is how I wish it were:


Which is correct? If the ladder photo is closer to how my foot should be positioned... how do I avoid feeling like my foot is going to slip off? I've got vortex rearsets, and they're pretty grippy (sharp even). But even in the first photo, I feel like I could lose my footing..... advice?


Thanks. Craig
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Re: Foot position
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2011, 01:05:58 PM »
depends on where on the track you are.
the first picture is correct for standard positioning; however, in a corner, your inside foot can be used for pushing the peg down like in your second picture (you get more leverage, and it also helps to guide the rest of your body by pointing into the corner). The thing you have to concern yourself with in the second picture, is that you don't have your toes too far off the peg, as the more lean angle the bike gets, the closer you're going to come to dragging toe- which is a big no-no.
Vortex pegs are spikey as shit, and you're probably not going to slip off. I've lost my inside footing mid-corner before with stock pegs and spooked the shit out of myself which lead to an off-track-through-a-gravel-pit-narrowly-missing-a-concrete-wall experience.
Just make sure your foot is planted, and have faith in your pegs.
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Re: Foot position
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2011, 01:24:59 PM »
i have a real hard time getting into the second position. i think some of the problem is that my boots are not very flezible, so its hard to get any of the sole on the peg.
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Re: Foot position
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2011, 04:37:23 PM »
hard time physically, or mentally?
you're not bending your foot around the peg... the teeth of the pegs will catch your boot... i have worn spots in the bottoms of my boots from where they stand on the pegs.

... don't think of it as standing on that tiny portion of the peg... think of it like your inside foot is pushing into the peg.... even though you really are kind of standing on it... kinda lol if that helps.
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Re: Foot position
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2011, 10:48:15 PM »
Actaully, a trick I learnerd from one of my instructors 6-7 years ago is that you should really be moving your feet around depending on what your doing on track...
Whenever possbile you should have the arch of your foot on the peg, not the ball.  The only time you should have the ball of your foot on the peg is during corning, and then the inside foot only.  Keeping the arch of your foot on the peg gives access to significanly more force that can be applied to the - i.e. with the ball of your foot, you're using your ankle, which really isn't "that" strong, but when you have the arch on the peg, you are using your thigh muscles, which are signifantly stronger than the ankle.

As far as the actual position, durning cornering - inside foot, usign the balls of your feet are perference for 2 reasons - the fore mentioned toe-clearence issue, and also as c-dub mentioned the ability to rotate to get you're toe pointed outward (in releation to the bike).
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Re: Foot position
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 07:39:21 PM »
The second photo just looks really uncomfortable.
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Re: Foot position
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2011, 01:57:39 AM »
My trackday went well. I tried hard to get my footing just right, and I focused hard on my cornering technique. I touched my toe down once, but otherwise I didn't have too much trouble getting the lean angles I wanted. My swingarm ended up getting pretty scuffed by the steel heel of my boot.... ultimately I wasn't able to get my boot exactly vertical.... more like 1/2 between the two on a bad session or 3/4 vertical on a good session.

I agree with beer in the sentiment that it isn't comfortable (or really, natural).

I also focused on being smooth in my gearshifts, both up and down. I found under hard acceleration the bike's geometry really destabilized when shifting, so I was working on keeping that shifting out of the corner.

Cheers. Craig
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Re: Foot position
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2011, 12:07:58 PM »
don't blip, and it'll be a lot smoother.
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Re: Foot position
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2011, 01:32:31 PM »
Ah... not bliping on down-shifts will get the chassis more upset, and a good chance of the rear wheel starting to hop around...
But yea, don't blip on up-shifts...

Biggest thing is practicing throttle & clutch control during shifting.
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Then again, there might be a reason I run a slipper clutch & a quick shifter myself... ::)
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Re: Foot position
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2011, 08:10:08 PM »
when I blipped on downshifts, I'd lose my rear wheel... as soon as I started keeping a constant throttle, it was butter.
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Re: Foot position
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2011, 09:46:44 PM »
i really don't see how that would work, dub. constant throttle and different gears will still jerk you.
can you please explain exactly what you are doing? or perhaps you have a slipper clutch?
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Re: Foot position
« Reply #11 on: August 25, 2011, 10:22:03 PM »
erm, I'd love to explain... but it's just what I do... I dunno... hit the brake, clutch in, downshift, clutch out... without letting off the throttle, your RPMs come up just that little bit to match where they'd be on the lower gear...
and nopers, no slipper. coach says having one won't teach me how to race properly ;)
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Re: Foot position
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2011, 12:53:55 AM »
My problem is, street shifting isn't nearly the same as track shifting. So its taking me a while to get the shifting down just right. But it got better through the day. Rear wheel hop was a bit of a problem early in the day. Thats a little bit of an unsettling feeling, heh.

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Re: Foot position
« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2011, 06:42:21 AM »
Quote from: leusent on August 26, 2011, 12:53:55 AM
My problem is, street shifting isn't nearly the same as track shifting. So its taking me a while to get the shifting down just right. But it got better through the day. Rear wheel hop was a bit of a problem early in the day. Thats a little bit of an unsettling feeling, heh.

Craig

If you're going to ride the track much, you might as well get used to rear wheel hop. It's going to happen, not a big deal. Just go with it.
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Re: Foot position
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2011, 10:37:33 AM »
how many of you track riders have switched the Shift patern to 1 up 5 down?????

I agree there are a lot of things that happen that are uncomfortable at first but when you learn to expect them, its all good,

I haven't seen a track since 1996-97 and would love to get back out there, just not right now, maybe in a few years for my 40th B-day I will do the old guy races....
 
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