changing gear in a wheelie??

[konceppt]

I have been slowly learning to wheelie my 05 rr.i have changed the gearing to 15/44 and it has made a good difference.i can lift it on the power in 1st and i can clutch it up in 2nd but only a few inches.what i want to know is how do i lift the front wheel in 1st gear and then change into second gear to ride the wheelie out.
i cant lift it properly in second and when i lift it in 1st it comes up too quick once it is off the ground.i have read stories of people changing into second when wheelieing in 1st and just looping it straightaway.how do i change into second to keep the front wheel up without seeing nothing but sky then hard tarmac?

[hairbag]

I'm afraid you will likely have to throw your bike down on the pavement a few times before you perfect that stunt. If thats what you want to do with your bike nothing you can do for a short cut except practice. Do it where you won't hurt someone else.

[konceppt]

i will do.i have just started to practice using the clutch to wheelie in 1st which i was previously too scared to do.but i have realised that it is actually much easier to lift because you are expecting it and as i long as i keep my foot on the rear beake it doesnt seem to want to loop as easily as when i power it up in 1st.i want to try changing into second but i havent yet because i am unsure of what will happen.is it most likely to drop the front wheel straight down or do the opposite and send me skyward ?

[maskale]

You can power it up in 2nd with 15/44, you just need to work on in it, and you can certainly clutch it up. you should not need to shift from 1st to second, just bring it up in first. Like ^^^^ said it will take practice and being smooth, you have to be at your balance point also, other wise the bike will start to come down and second gear will not have the power to catch it.

[konceppt]

i can clutch it up higher in second over the crest of a hill but not on a flat straight road but i havent really practised enough.i can lift it on the clutch in first everytime but i cannot ride them out in 1st because it just feels too revvy and too likely to loop if i dont back off the throttle.that is why i want to try changing into second because the power band isnt as brutal and i though it would be easier to wheelie for longer.its annoying being able to lift the front wheel whenever i want but not being able to wheelie any distance.

[maskale]

Your not reaching your balance point.  clutch it up in second, you can, just need to rev it up and dump it.

[konceppt]

i struggle to lift it in second.what ravs should i try.i dont look at the rev counter when i use the clutch in 1st.maybe i am just toolow in the rev range when i try to wheelie it in second.when i am in first i obviously dont need to rev it too high before i let the clutch out.
i have not reached the balance point yet.i am not scared to reach it but i am scared of how quickly my front wheel wants to get there.i am worried that i am going to go past the balance point and keep on going.

[maskale]

How fast are you going, that may be part of the problem.  You need to be going about 30-40 maybe even 50, rev up to about 6K dump it and see what you get, if nothing, try 7K, then 8K and so on till you get it up.    I am not a wheelie type person so I cant give you exact numbers as far as speed or RPM cause I dont do it enough, when I would do it I would just go by feel, but I tell you the bike can do it.  With your gearing you can also power it up in second. Get up to about 50mph, chop the throttle and then open it up while giving the bars a pull if you need to. I am not sure on the speed of 50, so play with it and see what you get, the point is your bike needs to be in the power band so that is where you want to start to bring it up.

[konceppt]

yeah i think i will stick with lifting it in 1st and just get used to it.the other day i went over a humped bridge and just dipped the clutch in second and by the time the front wheel came back to earth i was doing 80 mph and that was scary shit for someone just learning to wheelie.

[cobes]

Yeah jsut do them in first.  I used to mess around in second a lot around 7k or so with the clutch.  Then I almost looped it and started hitting the track. 

[konceppt]

yeah i will do i think.it just feels too revvy in first.i know its possible to wheelie through the gears though.i may try once and see what happens if it does it comfortably i will carry on.if not then i will post pics of my smashed up bike.

[maskale]

if that is you in your avatar you need to pic that thing way up, thats a baby wheelie. Yeah first is revvy because of the power, that is why second may be better, you can still bring it up but the throttle is more forgiving.

[konceppt]

the avatar is me but my girlfriend was trying to catch it on a digital camera which has a delay so she caught the start of the wheelie.i can lift it higher than this but i cannot keep it there for too long.

[maskale]

Put your camera on bust shot, some have a 3 shot burst some you can just hold down and take pics until your memory is full.  Have it on burst and then just throw away the bad ones.

[BlackNumberOne]

how do i lift the front wheel in 1st gear and then change into second gear to ride the wheelie out.

you probably aren't high enough to shift yet.  if you are getting close to BP wheelies, then just SHIFT GEARS. seriously, just shift to second and feed it some gas. don't use the clutch on the shift and be ready for the front to come down fast (unless you are close to the BP).... if you get on the gas hard after your quick shift, you'll put the front down softer, or keep the front up. also, the rr is not an easy bike to ride wheelies on in the first place. don't know what honda was thinking when they designed this bike!