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BlackNumberOne

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Suspension Settings
« on: April 05, 2006, 03:56:08 PM »
This was already on the site, but all scattered around.... hopefully it will help somebody besides myself get a good benchmark or a starting point for setting up their shit.

CBR600RR Suspension Settings
Factory Settings (??03-04?? for 165lb rider):
Front standard compression setting: 2 turns out from full hard
Front preload standard position: 14mm (0.6 in) 4th groove from top of fork bolt
Front rebound standard position: 2-1/2 turns out from full hard
Rear standard compression setting: 7 clicks out from full hard
Rear preload standard position: #3
Rear rebound standard position: 1-3/4 turns out from full hard
Sport Rider Magazine (2005):
In March Issue:
Front: Preload: 11 turns out from full stiff; Rebound damping: 1.75 turns out from full stiff; Compression damping; 2.5 turns out from full stiff; Ride height: 5mm fork tube showing
Rear: Preload:  Position 3 from full soft; Rebound damping: 2.5 turns out from full stiff; Compression damping: 12 clicks out from full stiff.
In April Issue:
Front: Preload: 7 turns out from full stiff; Rebound damping: 2 turns out from full stiff; Compression damping; 2.5 turns out from full stiff; Ride height: 5mm fork tube showing
Rear: Preload:  Position 6 from full soft; Rebound damping: .75 turns out from full stiff; Compression damping: 11 clicks out from full stiff.
RRRacer:
If you set the static sag at about 28mm on the front and 10-12 on the rear you wont go far wrong.
U-235Splitter:
I am 225 lbs without gear on, I have the front preload cranked all the way in and still havve 43 mm of sag on front. However the rear factory pre-load was just fine, if I remember about 36 mm sag the race-tech guy said that thee pro-link rear works better with a bit more sag than other bikes.
Ozjack's Settings (120lb rider)(2003-2004):
Rear shock
Preload- setting 4
Rebound- 1 1/4 turns out from full IN
Compression- 5 clicks out from full IN
Forks
Preload- 4 lines showing(stock) is fine, but will need more if you are heavier(eg 1 line less showing for each 30lbs heavier than 120lbs)
Rebound- 2 turns out from full IN
Compression- 1 1/2 turns out from full IN
Swillmott82 (235lbs)
Try to get the sags set as close to 30mm front and rear as
possible.  Set rear compression at about 1/2 turn out, rebound at max or 1/4
turn out.   Front damping at about 1/4 turn out on both rebound and
compression.
DaBeachBum (255lbs)
My rear spring is pre loaded at 6 and about a turn out on both rebound/compression. It's perfect.
My front is preloaded all the way and about 1 turn out, too. It's okay but not near what i'd probably get set up for by a pro.
Ozjack's recommended settings for 180lb. rider (2005)
Set the preload properly for starters, should be setting 5 at the rear shock, front forks standard should be just about right for your weight judging by the stiffness of my mates 05.
Add a full turn of compression on the forks, and 1/2 a turn of rebound.
Rear shock would probably need 3/4  turn more rebound, and maybe 1/2 turn compression.
Ozjack helping and yelling at other people about suspension setups
http://www.cbr600rr.com/forum/index.php/topic,11226.0.html
MCN Magazine (2003-2004)
10 stone (140lb) rider
Front Preload = flush with 4th ring from top
Front Comp. = 1 turn from fully in
Front Rebound = 1 1/2 turns from fully in
Rear Preload = Position 3
Rear Comp. = 2 1/2 turns from fully in
Rear Rebound = 1 turn from fully in
14 stone (203lb) rider
Front Preload = flush with 3rd ring from top
Front Comp. = 3/4 turn from fully in
Front Rebound = 1 3/4 turns from fully in
Rear Preload = Position 3
Rear Comp. = 2 turns from fully in
Rear Rebound = 1 1/4 turns from fully in
Standard Settings should be
Front Preload = flush with 4th ring from top
Front Comp. = 2 turn from fully in
Front Rebound = 2 1/2 turns from fully in
Rear Preload = Position 3
Rear Comp. = 2 turns from fully in
Rear Rebound = 1 3/4 turns from fully in
Hollywood's settings (145/165lbs w/ gear) (2003-2004)
Front:
   Preload:  3 lines showing
   Rebound Damping:  1 turn out from full stiff
   Compression dammping:  1.5 turns out from full stiff
Rear:
   Preload:  4 of 7
   Rebound Damping:  .5 turn out from full stiff
   Comp Damping:   6 clicks out from full stiff
RONS Settings (215lbs) (2003-2004)
The magizine article recommends 20-25 millimeters of sag. Closer to 20 for the track and closer to 25 for the road. I'm running mine at 28 front and rear. At 215 lbs I need 3 rings in the front showing and position 5 in the rear to get that 28 mm.
BIKE magazine (setting sag) (all bikes)
They recommend that the static sag setting should be one third of the suspension travel. For example, if you have 150 mm total travel with the suspension fully extended, then with the rider and their gear on the bike, 100 mm of travel should be left. Just another option for setting your sag.
Troubleshooting Chart (Thanks to NewRedRider)


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Re: Suspension Settings
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2006, 10:35:24 AM »
I like the troubleshooting chart, how about a link where I can get a clean copy of it. Looks like you scanned it in.

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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2006, 12:36:46 PM »
I like the troubleshooting chart, how about a link where I can get a clean copy of it. Looks like you scanned it in.

Try looking at it with your bifocals on, it will be much more clear... ::)  :P
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Re: Suspension Settings
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2006, 12:40:13 PM »
Damn Black,  nice compilation!  That looks like it took you some time and I'll be the first one to thank you for it.   :thumb:

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Re: Suspension Settings
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2006, 01:32:19 PM »
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Try looking at it with your bifocals on, it will be much more clear...

ha ha ha ha!!!!!  8) sorry "Old Wanderer", but that was funny....
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2006, 01:34:59 PM »
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Damn Black,  nice compilation!  That looks like it took you some time and I'll be the first one to thank you for it.

no problem man.... i was doing it for myself and figured it may be "the thread" that helps someone else get through some suspension tuning. I've been trying everything just to get a better grip on how the adjustments make the bike ride differently. Only reason i'm being brave now is b/c after i throw a 190 on the back, i'm going to have it professionally done anyway. its experimentation time.
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2006, 07:25:56 PM »
This thread is so good I'm moving it to the FAQ section!
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2006, 09:47:05 PM »
Try looking at it with your bifocals on, it will be much more clear... ::)  :P

 :P :P :P   Yeah I think you are part of those hooligans  :jerkoff: that keep hiding my walker when I come off the track and back to the pits.   :embarrassed:

Do you think riders would have to give way too me if I painted the tips of my forks red, like a red tipped cane??

Thanks for the article Blacknumber 1
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Re: Suspension Settings
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2007, 09:50:29 PM »
do the 05-06's have the same suspension as the 03-04?    nice post black   :thumb:
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Re: Suspension Settings
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2007, 10:57:43 PM »
do the 05-06's have the same suspension as the 03-04?    nice post black   :thumb:
05 onwards have upside down forks, and revised rearshock settings(compression is 12 clicks out instead of 7 as on the 03-04).

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Re: Suspension Settings
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2008, 03:59:16 PM »
Any one have trouble adj preload on the 2007 CBR600RR rear shock. I cant get the thing to budge even with a spanner wrench.

Also, any know how to get the bike about an inch lower
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Re: Suspension Settings
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2008, 04:12:08 PM »
it is tough to move, the wrench I had came with a small extension, even with that it took some effort. Shock it with a sharp blow with a screwdriver. After it moves the first time it usually moves easier.
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« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2008, 11:00:21 PM »
The rear shock is stepped-preload, meaning it will snap to the next setting and skin your knuckles.
Setting the preload properly front and rear will lower the bike a decent amount, but if the bike can`t sag enough with (her?) weight on it then it is best to buy new, softer, springs.

Lowering the bike any other way is just asking for handling problems, and can have detrimental effects on the current spring rate too(if you change your linkage).

The shock may move about a little while you adjust the preload, this is normal. :thumb: ;D

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Re: Suspension Settings
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2008, 08:21:01 AM »
are there any 'advised trackday' susp setting know for the 07-08  600rr ?

I just can't get the tire wear to become in a proper way.  A LOT of rubber parts on the side of the rear tire.. tried out several comp and damping positions but nothing seems to help  ???

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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2008, 07:53:49 PM »
If it's the rubber balls on the tyre's edge you're talking about I don't think suspension changes will make them go away. The more you open the throttle the less balls you will have(contradictory? 8)). Tyre spin is the only way to have clean tyres at the end of a session. I don't mean sideways out of every corner, just coming very hard out of corners will have the tyre spinning gently but not stepping out, you may not even feel the spinning tyre at all but you will have clean tyres.

If they are wearing dramatically then yes, maybe you need a softer set-up.