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trailer advice
« on: February 15, 2006, 04:09:28 PM »
I want to start doing track days and there are some things I will need. One of them is trasportation.
It has been brought to my attention that riding a bike to and from a track is ill-advised. I don't want to buy another vehicle, so a trailer seems like the best alternative. Surely someone is now thinking "just borrow someone's pickup and use a ramp" or "hitch a ride with someone." I might be able to borrow a pickup on rare occasion, but I don't think it's very viable if I want to do a bunch of track events. I don't know anyone with a trailer or pickup who will be going to such events.

I have a 7 foot ramp that's rated for way more than the bike. My car is a 1992 Chev. Cavelier 2.2L 4-cyl. 5 speed manual. I don't imagine towing a whole lot is going to be a good idea with that car. Some time in the next year, I'll probably be replacing it, but not with a big pickup or anything really meant to tow a trailer.

For those of you who have/have used trailers, what should I be looking for?

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Re: trailer advice
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2006, 04:19:48 PM »
If your just going to tow your bike.  Get a little flat bed trailer. Like the ones people with quads have. They are like 4 or 5 feet wide and 6 feet long. They are really light.   Then throw your gear in the backseat.  Tyres in the trunk.  I don't know too much about enclosed trailers.  But i won't worry about that unless you don't want your bike to get wet if it rains.
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Re: trailer advice
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2006, 05:57:01 PM »
As a guy that goes to a lot of track days a year, get a small 4 x 6 trailer, Harbor Frieght sells them.  They work great.  You cna tow it with your Cavalier.  There is a girl that rides with our club that tows one with her Neon.  Plenty of room too.  Hell we use a 4 x 6 metal trailer to tow two bikes.  But then of course I am towing it with an Expedition or an Escalade.

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Re: trailer advice
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2006, 02:51:51 AM »
But then of course I am towing it with an Expedition or an Escalade.

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Re: trailer advice
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2006, 04:19:32 AM »
Hondatech always recommends going to Lowes and buying the 5x8 trailer listing around 700 dollars...
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Re: trailer advice
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2006, 07:31:58 AM »
Big Balla!  :P

Not my Escalade...it's my track partner's.  I prefer the plain jane Expedition to haul clients, deal with snow, and tow lots O' weight. 

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Re: trailer advice
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2006, 07:36:07 AM »
Hondatech always recommends going to Lowes and buying the 5x8 trailer listing around 700 dollars...
I asked this very same question last summer or so and that was the general consensus.  

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=100369-000015476-5X8G&lpage=none

The trouble I have is that my friend that is going to share the trailer cost with me wants some fancy, bike specific trailer that costs a lot more.  I am happy with the Lowes trailer, some wheel chocks, and some tie-down points.  He is afraid the trailer will track poorly and ride bad on the interstate....

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Re: trailer advice
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2006, 01:09:25 PM »
Truly truly false....

That little 4 x 6 trailer rides great on the highway.  We do 80-85 mph with that and with something that has some power you'll never even know it's there.

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Re: trailer advice
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2006, 01:44:19 PM »
Truly truly false....

That little 4 x 6 trailer rides great on the highway. We do 80-85 mph with that and with something that has some power you'll never even know it's there.

He has a brand new Avalanche, so we have the power.  I have a V6 Odyssey and I even think that would be fine with it. 

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Re: trailer advice
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2006, 03:01:46 PM »
For the money and to be able to haul it by yourself get something small like one of the Harbor freight trailers. If he is willing to always tow with his Avalanche then that opens up a whole new realm but I've heard that one before.  I started with an open trailer and sleeping in the back of my Pathfinder.... things escalate. If you really get into it you'll wind up getting an enclosed. If you make some modern conviences available in an enclosed then there is no need for hotel costs, you can camp in the trailer. Look at Jeff's Taj Mahal on wheels....I'm sooo jealous.   
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Re: trailer advice
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2006, 06:02:40 AM »
I started out renting trailers. Then after the track bug bit me, I had go get an enclosed trailer. The enclosed offers more range.  In other words, when you hit tracks that are further away, and you gotta get there a day ahead of time, IMO, not too cool leaving my bike out in open trailer at motels or anywhere else.

Then you have the weather, and the ease in which an enclosed trailer can take on multiple dutes. Throw in an air mattress and you got a camper.

This year I have hit trackdays in Florida twice, the enclosed trailer makes those trips a breeze. And when you got a lot invested in your bike(s), it only seems reasonable to protect them in transport.

Just my 2 cents.

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Re: trailer advice
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2006, 09:19:39 AM »
I started out renting trailers. Then after the track bug bit me, I had go get an enclosed trailer. The enclosed offers more range.  In other words, when you hit tracks that are further away, and you gotta get there a day ahead of time, IMO, not too cool leaving my bike out in open trailer at motels or anywhere else.

Then you have the weather, and the ease in which an enclosed trailer can take on multiple dutes. Throw in an air mattress and you got a camper.

This year I have hit trackdays in Florida twice, the enclosed trailer makes those trips a breeze. And when you got a lot invested in your bike(s), it only seems reasonable to protect them in transport.

Just my 2 cents.

Another advantage of enclosed trailers is not having a bug covered bike by the time you get to your destination, but the price is a big turn off and not a lot of us have the cash to invest in those beauties...especially someone like me that only hits one track weekend a year...
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Re: trailer advice
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2006, 04:35:45 PM »
Another advantage of enclosed trailers is not having a bug covered bike by the time you get to your destination, but the price is a big turn off and not a lot of us have the cash to invest in those beauties...especially someone like me that only hits one track weekend a year...

My problem wasn't the initial investment, it was space.  I don't have room to store a regular trailer, and I'm not willing to pay for a storage spot for one either.

I'm also picky about trailers.  I grew up racing small sailboats, and my parents and I towed boats all over the place.  Very few things will screw up your day faster than a trailer problem.  Because of that, I'm fairly picky about things like wheel size, bearings, and the overall construction of the trailer.

As for the Harbor Freight trailers...I know people do it and haven't had problems, but personally, I wouldn't even put my mother-in-law on a Harbor Freight trailer, much less my motorcycle.  Those things are the epitome of cheaply-constructed Chinese crap.

Because of my space requirements, I went with the Kendon Dual-rail.  It is a quality unit that tows well (we took it 6000 miles last summer) and doesn't even mind having a heavy bike on one side and nothing on the other side.  One person can stand it up on its tail and roll it around to store it.  My only gripe is the stupid bling diamond-plate on the deck reflects the sun into your eyes if you're loading bikes on a bright day with the sun high overhead.

If I had the space to store a trailer, it would have been a toss-up between a covered trailer and a normal flatbed utility trailer.  The covered trailers are nice because of the security, and because you can leave your track bike and all of your track crap (gear, tools, spares, etc) in the trailer all the time.  "Getting ready to go to the track" means just hooking up the trailer. 

The downside is a covered trailer is more limiting with what you can put on/in it, so you might not be able to get as much use out of it as a flat-bed.  That may or may not matter to you, of course.

If you're just going to do a few trackdays a year, consider renting.  The little Uhaul motorcycle trailer is just fine, and you'd have to do an awful lot of trackdays before the rental fee exceeded the purchase price of buying your own trailer.

As for a tow vehicle...unless you're doing long distances and/or frequent towing, don't worry about it.  I used to tow a boat trailer that weighed about the same as the 600rr and my tow vehicle was a Saturn SC2.  It did just fine and was still going strong with absolutely zero problems when I sold it at 108K miles.  People who buy big SUV's and pickup trucks to occasionally tow dinky little motorcycle trailers a couple hundred miles are idiots.
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Re: trailer advice
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2006, 10:35:44 PM »
I dont know if you have a tractor supply around you, but check them for a trailer, i got a 5X8 mesh floor and ramp for like 550.
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Re: trailer advice
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2006, 01:20:53 PM »
I went with a enclosed trailer because of the security. I dont find myself looking to see if the bike is okay every ten minutes(now its like every twelve minutes). It is much easier to pack, you can do a few days in advance and then when its time to go hook-up and you're off. Its also nice to have a little work space/tool storage at the track, or rain shelter if need be.

Towing vehicles dont really matter for the most part. I have a F150 and it does okay, if you frequently go up large hills, mountains a big vehicle is much better. When I drive from Indy to Barber, Road Atlanta, Roebling, or Jennings the truck is not happy about those mountains in Tennessee.

But if you are only doing a few weekends I would agree just rent.
 
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